From: BURT on
On Jun 3, 8:28 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Burt:  The links, below, explain my invalidation of the M-M
> experiment.  Simple 9th grade algebra allows one to prove that light
> velocity is:  V = ‘c' + or - v.  Light shinning in the direction of
> Earth's motion gets speeded up by the velocity of the Earth.  Light
> shinning the opposite way gets slowed by the velocity of the Earth.  —
> NoEinstein —
>
> Where Angels Fear to Fallhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/8152ef3e...
>
> Replicating NoEinstein’s Invalidation of M-M  (at sci.math)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/d9f98526...
>
>
>
>
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> > On Jun 3, 7:08 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 1, 2:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear Burt:  I not only didn't "overlook" that fact, I disproved
> > > Einstein's SR and his notion that 'c' is the speed limit of the
> > > Universe!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > On Jun 1, 7:19 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 29, 9:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > If there is a speed limit of the universe of C there is a change of
> > > > > > speed limit below C. If you try to have a light speed acceleration
> > > > > > change you encounter weight. The purpose of weight is to limit
> > > > > > accelerations and decelerations. The purpose of weight is to limit
> > > > > > changes of speed in space for energy. Weight prevents changing at the
> > > > > > speed limit. All changes are below C.
>
> > > > > > The force of gravity has a limit at its extreme. It is less than light
> > > > > > speed acceleration field of gravity.
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > Dear Burt:  You should be on the Texas School Board.  Those folks like
> > > > > to make up 'facts', like: "...all 'people' are created equal, and are
> > > > > endowed by their creator..."  But I have to hand it to you, Burt: You
> > > > > certainly give "science" your best effort.  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > Its a fact that GR at its extreme violates the SR speed limit for
> > > > falling matter. This simple fact cannot be overlooked.
>
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> > You are a crackpot. Nothing has measured past the speed of light
> > Pleaes provide your measurements as proof.
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Light shinning in the direction of
Earth's motion gets speeded up by the velocity of the Earth. Light
shinning the opposite way gets slowed by the velocity of the Earth.
—
NoEinstein —


I challenge you that it is just the opposite. Think about what you are
saying. If the Earth moves in the same direction as the light the
light motion will slow down. These are two speeds moving together in
the same direction. So it is their difference that is observed. Please
show me where this is wrong. It is there difference that is slower.

Mitch Raemsch

Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on
On Jun 3, 10:20 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear PD:  Rather than trying to engage me in your conversation about
> philosophies, I suggest you search Political Forum group, "Start the
> Revolution! Government is out-of-touch with the people!"  There are
> books and books of information, there, about how I think.  All in all,
> I'm less biased than most.  Writing our New Constitution demands a
> 'fair' neutrality.  — NoEinstein —

If you want a country with a New Constitution, perhaps the best thing
to do is to move out of the country that already has one.
I understand there are some territories in eastern Europe and central
Africa that are in need of a New Constitution.

>
>
>
> > On Jun 3, 9:22 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 2, 7:08 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear PD:  The police are the Gestapos of (usually) corrupt
> > > governments.  They haven't got the foggiest notion what upholding the
> > > constitution means.  If they did, they would arrest all of the
> > > SOCIALISTS, like those Hispanics who keep demonstrating against the
> > > Arizona Law.
>
> > So you believe that quashing demonstrations is supported by the
> > Constitution?
>
> > >  And they would arrest Barack Obama for working
> > > tirelessly to destroy our Representative Republic and the economic and
> > > social viability of the USA.
>
> > And you believe that this is also supported by the Constitution?
>
> > >  I invite others to read my essays at
> > > Political Forum under: "Start the revolution!  Government is out-of-
> > > touch with the People!  — NoEinstein —  Real name: John A. Armistead
>
> > > > On Jun 2, 1:42 am, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jun 1, 10:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jun 1, 9:19 am, NoEinstein wrote:
> > > > > > > Dear Burt:  You should be on the Texas School Board.  Those folks like
> > > > > > > to make up 'facts', like: "...all 'people' are created equal, and are
> > > > > > > endowed by their creator..."  But I have to hand it to you, Burt: You
> > > > > > > certainly give "science" your best effort.
>
> > > > > > Do you not believe in the statement "...all people are created equal,
> > > > > > and are endowed by their creator..."?
>
> > > > > No, I don't.  <shrug>
>
> > > > Of course you don't. You believe yourself to be significantly better
> > > > than other folks, and so you've said.
>
> > > > > > If you would like to revoke your US citizenship, so that you do not
> > > > > > have to abide in a country that was founded on this principle, I'm
> > > > > > sure that can be arranged.
>
> > > > > Hmmm...  Why do you think the US citizenship has anything to do with
> > > > > that?
>
> > > > US citizenship involves an oath to uphold the Constitution for one,
> > > > which was written following the declaration of intent to form a new
> > > > nation, for another, in which those words were written.
>
> > > > If you do not believe that being a citizen implies allegiance to that
> > > > Constitution, I suggest walking into the nearest police station and
> > > > declaring your intent to ignore it.
>
> > > > Ignoramus.
>
> > > > > Let's find an example.
>
> > > > > The bankers lend money to idiots who think they deserve to live a
> > > > > mansions.  Well, obvious the idiots cannot do so.  The idiots default
> > > > > on the loans.  The bankers got bailed out on their losses, and the
> > > > > idiots walked away without much consequences.  The ones that did not
> > > > > participate have to pay for all that bullshit.  Of course, all people
> > > > > are not created equal.  You just have to be in the right place at the
> > > > > right time.  Hell, even Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the
> > > > > liar can be worshipped as a god by self-styled physicists.  Go figure
> > > > > that one out.  It should not be very difficult to do so, Mr. ex-
> > > > > professor if one is to believe PD used to be a professor of physics.
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From: NoEinstein on
On Jun 3, 10:30 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
Dear PD: Google hasn't been showing all of the threads about "gravity,
'pull' vs. PUSH". That's probably because those threads became too
long for their memory On June 2, on sci.math, I replied to you with a
step-by-step explanation about the differences between dynamic
equilibrium and static equilibrium. I hope you will read such,
objectively. I wasn't trying to be... mean, just clear. I spent over
an hour writing that reply, so I want you to see it. — NoEinstein —
>
> On Jun 3, 9:22 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 2, 7:08 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear PD:  The police are the Gestapos of (usually) corrupt
> > governments.  They haven't got the foggiest notion what upholding the
> > constitution means.  If they did, they would arrest all of the
> > SOCIALISTS, like those Hispanics who keep demonstrating against the
> > Arizona Law.
>
> So you believe that quashing demonstrations is supported by the
> Constitution?
>
> >  And they would arrest Barack Obama for working
> > tirelessly to destroy our Representative Republic and the economic and
> > social viability of the USA.
>
> And you believe that this is also supported by the Constitution?
>
>
>
> >  I invite others to read my essays at
> > Political Forum under: "Start the revolution!  Government is out-of-
> > touch with the People!  — NoEinstein —  Real name: John A. Armistead
>
> > > On Jun 2, 1:42 am, Koobee Wublee <koobee.wub...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 1, 10:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jun 1, 9:19 am, NoEinstein wrote:
> > > > > > Dear Burt:  You should be on the Texas School Board.  Those folks like
> > > > > > to make up 'facts', like: "...all 'people' are created equal, and are
> > > > > > endowed by their creator..."  But I have to hand it to you, Burt: You
> > > > > > certainly give "science" your best effort.
>
> > > > > Do you not believe in the statement "...all people are created equal,
> > > > > and are endowed by their creator..."?
>
> > > > No, I don't.  <shrug>
>
> > > Of course you don't. You believe yourself to be significantly better
> > > than other folks, and so you've said.
>
> > > > > If you would like to revoke your US citizenship, so that you do not
> > > > > have to abide in a country that was founded on this principle, I'm
> > > > > sure that can be arranged.
>
> > > > Hmmm...  Why do you think the US citizenship has anything to do with
> > > > that?
>
> > > US citizenship involves an oath to uphold the Constitution for one,
> > > which was written following the declaration of intent to form a new
> > > nation, for another, in which those words were written.
>
> > > If you do not believe that being a citizen implies allegiance to that
> > > Constitution, I suggest walking into the nearest police station and
> > > declaring your intent to ignore it.
>
> > > Ignoramus.
>
> > > > Let's find an example.
>
> > > > The bankers lend money to idiots who think they deserve to live a
> > > > mansions.  Well, obvious the idiots cannot do so.  The idiots default
> > > > on the loans.  The bankers got bailed out on their losses, and the
> > > > idiots walked away without much consequences.  The ones that did not
> > > > participate have to pay for all that bullshit.  Of course, all people
> > > > are not created equal.  You just have to be in the right place at the
> > > > right time.  Hell, even Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the
> > > > liar can be worshipped as a god by self-styled physicists.  Go figure
> > > > that one out.  It should not be very difficult to do so, Mr. ex-
> > > > professor if one is to believe PD used to be a professor of physics..
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From: NoEinstein on
On Jun 3, 11:22 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Dear Burt: Please explain..."the second side of gravity". — NE —
>
> On Jun 3, 7:11 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 1, 5:33 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Burt:  True!  At acceleration 'g', a one pound (Earth) mass
> > weighs one pound.  But at acceleration 2g, the "strength" of gravity
> > is doubled!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > On Jun 1, 7:19 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 29, 9:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > If there is a speed limit of the universe of C there is a change of
> > > > > speed limit below C. If you try to have a light speed acceleration
> > > > > change you encounter weight. The purpose of weight is to limit
> > > > > accelerations and decelerations. The purpose of weight is to limit
> > > > > changes of speed in space for energy. Weight prevents changing at the
> > > > > speed limit. All changes are below C.
>
> > > > > The force of gravity has a limit at its extreme. It is less than light
> > > > > speed acceleration field of gravity.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > Dear Burt:  You should be on the Texas School Board.  Those folks like
> > > > to make up 'facts', like: "...all 'people' are created equal, and are
> > > > endowed by their creator..."  But I have to hand it to you, Burt: You
> > > > certainly give "science" your best effort.  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > Acceleration quantifies gravity's strength. It's simple.
>
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From: NoEinstein on
On Jun 3, 11:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Dear Burt: I'm not "supposing", I'm stating a New Science TRUTH!
Einstein himself said that if an Earth-mounted instrument can ever
measure Earth's velocity, that his SR theory would be disproved. My
X, Y, & Z interferometer detects (but can't quantify) Earth's motion
and direction. I also disprove SR by simply showing that E = mc^2 /
beta violates the Law of the Conservation of Energy. You should try
to understand my New Science rather than debate it. The reasoning
FITS every observed phenomena in the Universe! — NE —
>
> On Jun 3, 8:28 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 3, 3:43 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Burt:  The links, below, explain my invalidation of the M-M
> > experiment.  Simple 9th grade algebra allows one to prove that light
> > velocity is:  V = ‘c' + or - v.  Light shinning in the direction of
> > Earth's motion gets speeded up by the velocity of the Earth.  Light
> > shinning the opposite way gets slowed by the velocity of the Earth.  —
> > NoEinstein —
>
> > Where Angels Fear to Fallhttp://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/8152ef3e...
>
> > Replicating NoEinstein’s Invalidation of M-M  (at sci.math)http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/browse_thread/thread/d9f98526...
>
> > > On Jun 3, 7:08 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 1, 2:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Dear Burt:  I not only didn't "overlook" that fact, I disproved
> > > > Einstein's SR and his notion that 'c' is the speed limit of the
> > > > Universe!  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > > On Jun 1, 7:19 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On May 29, 9:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > If there is a speed limit of the universe of C there is a change of
> > > > > > > speed limit below C. If you try to have a light speed acceleration
> > > > > > > change you encounter weight. The purpose of weight is to limit
> > > > > > > accelerations and decelerations. The purpose of weight is to limit
> > > > > > > changes of speed in space for energy. Weight prevents changing at the
> > > > > > > speed limit. All changes are below C.
>
> > > > > > > The force of gravity has a limit at its extreme. It is less than light
> > > > > > > speed acceleration field of gravity.
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > Dear Burt:  You should be on the Texas School Board.  Those folks like
> > > > > > to make up 'facts', like: "...all 'people' are created equal, and are
> > > > > > endowed by their creator..."  But I have to hand it to you, Burt: You
> > > > > > certainly give "science" your best effort.  — NoEinstein —
>
> > > > > Its a fact that GR at its extreme violates the SR speed limit for
> > > > > falling matter. This simple fact cannot be overlooked.
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
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> > > You are a crackpot. Nothing has measured past the speed of light
> > > Pleaes provide your measurements as proof.
>
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>  Light shinning in the direction of
> Earth's motion gets speeded up by the velocity of the Earth.  Light
> shinning the opposite way gets slowed by the velocity of the Earth.
> —
> NoEinstein —
>
> I challenge you that it is just the opposite. Think about what you are
> saying. If the Earth moves in the same direction as the light the
> light motion will slow down. These are two speeds moving together in
> the same direction. So it is their difference that is observed. Please
> show me where this is wrong. It is there difference that is slower.
>
> Mitch Raemsch
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