From: Harishankar on
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:45:58 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>>>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>>>>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>>>>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>>>>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>>
>> Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called
>> HP_PSC_1315.ppd in /etc/cups/ppd
>
> Just ensure you have the lastest PPD version.
>
>>> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
>>
>> I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
>> recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to
>> make no difference to this issue anyway.
>
> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón


Thank you.

I am going to uninstall the printer and retry with your suggested latest
version of the PPD file.


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From: Camaleón on
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:43:10 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
>> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
>> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.

> Thank you.
>
> I am going to uninstall the printer and retry with your suggested latest
> version of the PPD file.

No need to "unistall". Just add a new printer in Cups using the latest
PPD file, that's all.

Remember that you can have as many printers as you like (even for the
same device!), each one using a different driver or using different
default options :-)

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From: Harishankar on
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:45:58 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>>>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>>>>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>>>>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>>>>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>>
>> Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called
>> HP_PSC_1315.ppd in /etc/cups/ppd
>
> Just ensure you have the lastest PPD version.
>
>>> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
>>
>> I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
>> recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to
>> make no difference to this issue anyway.
>
> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón

After I installed the latest PPD file for the printer I still see only
the following options in printer settings:

Normal Color
Normal Grayscale
Draft Color
Draft Grayscale
High Resolution Photo

I see nothing about the printer settings to suggest that this latest PPD
is different from the earlier driver. :-(

Should I try printing a test document to see if both B&W and color
cartridge are used to print multi-color documents with black text? (I'm
not too hopeful :-(


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From: Camaleón on
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:02:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
>> can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
>> that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>
> After I installed the latest PPD file for the printer I still see only
> the following options in printer settings:
>
> Normal Color
> Normal Grayscale
> Draft Color
> Draft Grayscale
> High Resolution Photo
>
> I see nothing about the printer settings to suggest that this latest PPD
> is different from the earlier driver. :-(

If there are no more options for the printer, maybe it's by design. Not
all printers allow the same settings :-?

Does the windows driver provide addional settings than the linux one?

> Should I try printing a test document to see if both B&W and color
> cartridge are used to print multi-color documents with black text? (I'm
> not too hopeful :-(

I think it won't work. You need to be able to define this:

***
Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Graphics Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black only
***

And those options are not available for your printer, neither using the
old PPD nor the lastest :-(

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From: Harishankar on
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:15:02 +0000, Camaleón wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:02:03 +0000, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:09:01 +0000, Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>> No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that
>>> you can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer,
>>> taking that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
>>
>> After I installed the latest PPD file for the printer I still see only
>> the following options in printer settings:
>>
>> Normal Color
>> Normal Grayscale
>> Draft Color
>> Draft Grayscale
>> High Resolution Photo
>>
>> I see nothing about the printer settings to suggest that this latest
>> PPD is different from the earlier driver. :-(
>
> If there are no more options for the printer, maybe it's by design. Not
> all printers allow the same settings :-?
>
> Does the windows driver provide addional settings than the linux one?
>
>> Should I try printing a test document to see if both B&W and color
>> cartridge are used to print multi-color documents with black text? (I'm
>> not too hopeful :-(
>
> I think it won't work. You need to be able to define this:
>
> ***
> Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only Graphics Neutral Grays: 4
> colour / [x] black only Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black
> only ***
>
> And those options are not available for your printer, neither using the
> old PPD nor the lastest :-(
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón

I am sure that it was a bug because I cannot afford to waste multi colour
cartridge to generate the black text on pages where I need colour output
also. It does work that way in Windows (maybe because the driver is more
"intelligent"). I'm sure the HP PSC series of Multi-function printers
fall into the category of "cheap" and "unintelligent" (that is the
printer won't do the grunt work of choosing which cartridge to use for
what type of output).

All I need is black text and greyscale graphics to print with black ink
cartridge and colour text and output to print with the colour cartridge.

Hopefully somebody might find a solution to this. The question is how
long will it take for the driver developers to fix it?

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