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From: Nick Naym on 6 Apr 2010 14:07 In article 82154hFhmeU1(a)mid.individual.net, Jeffrey Goldberg at nobody(a)goldmark.org wrote on 4/6/10 12:17 PM: > Sherm Pendley wrote: >> Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> writes: >> >>> On 2010-04-05, Sherm Pendley <spamtrap(a)shermpendley.com> wrote: >>>> Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> There is no "other side", a fact which >>>> >>>> ... is a belief, not a fact. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. >>> >>> Whatever. >> >> No, not "whatever." Words have meaning, and "belief" and "fact" do not >> mean the same thing. > > First we need to recognize that nothing (with the possible exception of > mathematical theorems) is known with absolute certainty. Untrue (with absolute certainty). > So if we want > the word "fact" to have any *useful* meaning it needs to include things > that for which our beliefs are sufficiently justified and close to > certain to merit being called "knowledge". > > So for example, would you consider it a fact that the Sun > (approximately) is the center of our solar system? Is the heliocentric > view a "fact" for you? > > Then let's go to an absence of evidence case. Is it a fact for you that > unicorns do not exist? And if so, what role does absence of evidence > play in that conclusion. > > Basically there are cases in which absence of evidence is evidence of > absence (as in the unicorn case). The question then is whether life > after death is one of those cases. But before getting to that, you need > to get beyond this "absence of evidence" slogan. > > -j -- iMac (27", 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD) � OS X (10.6.3)
From: Jeffrey Goldberg on 6 Apr 2010 14:31 Warren Oates wrote: > In article <8215drFjeuU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody(a)goldmark.org> wrote: > >> The next day the atheist shows up with a new bicycle and thanks his >> friend for enlightening him. "You see," he says, "I stole this bicycle >> and prayed for forgiveness." > > Emo Philips: > "When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I > realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just > stole one and asked him to forgive me." > > http://www.emophilips.com/home > > He also says: "How many here have telekinetic powers? Raise my hand." Thanks. I was wondering where I'd stolen that joke from. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://goldmark.org/jeff/ I rarely read HTML or poorly quoting posts Reply-To address is valid
From: gtr on 6 Apr 2010 16:37 On 2010-04-06 10:14:25 -0700, Michelle Steiner said: > In article <michelle-FDA438.08374606042010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > >>> If the dining plans become readily available, I have an idle >>> curiousity. >> >> I'll check with my friend after I get back from my run. > > Napa Rose > Blue Bayou > Storybook Cafe > Steakhouse 55 > > Blue Bayou is for lunch; the other three are for dinner. All our other > meals will be mostly at counter service places. Ah, you're sticking close to home. Bon apetite! Should you go to the Apple Store in SCP, and like French food, March� Modern is one of our favorite places on planet Earth. Open for lunch. -- Thank you and have a nice day.
From: gtr on 6 Apr 2010 16:39 On 2010-04-06 12:07:35 -0700, Jim Gibson said: > It looks like there are 3 in the area: Brea, South Coast Plaza, and > Irvine Spectrum Center. None of them are very close. The Brea store > looks closest on a map, maybe 10 miles away, north up Highway 57 > (Orange Fwy). I'd suggest SCP. There's a "there" there, besides the Apple Store. > Too bad they don't have an Apple Store in Downtown Disneyland (a > shopping mall right outside the park). Then, if they only had an airport there, you might not even know you'd been to California. -- Thank you and have a nice day.
From: Warren Oates on 6 Apr 2010 17:41
In article <821d0dF1u7U2(a)mid.individual.net>, Jeffrey Goldberg <nobody(a)goldmark.org> wrote: > Thanks. I was wondering where I'd stolen that joke from. > > Cheers, It comes back to that adage that anyone who's ever worked in a (reasonably benign) bureaucracy adheres to: It's easier to obtain forgiveness than permission. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer |