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From: David Bolt on 25 Jan 2010 16:16 On Monday 25 Jan 2010 19:10, while playing with a tin of spray paint, script||die painted this mural: > On 01/24/2010 11:27 AM, David Bolt wrote: > >> And it does mean that script||die will have more time now he's got one >> less to deal with. > > I'd have to say that felt great, alas I know better. Even with the best > of users continuous connection is trouble looking for a moment, add to > that a lethal clue-vacuum and a month on the outside I'll be back there :-)) Well, you've still got a month with a bit less to do. > Just had an idea, I think the next time I'll just hand him a live > frisbee, think I still have 10.3 or an 11.0. Give them 11.1, if they're wanting to use KDE3, or 11.2 if they're happy with KDE4 or Gnome. I don't know if there's an XFCE live CD but, if there is, you could let them have one of those. If not, it's not too hard to build one with susestudio. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 11.0 32b | | | openSUSE 11.3M0 32b openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11
From: David Bolt on 25 Jan 2010 16:25 On Monday 25 Jan 2010 18:56, while playing with a tin of spray paint, script||die painted this mural: > On 01/24/2010 04:24 AM, David Bolt wrote: >> On Saturday 23 Jan 2010 17:25, while playing with a tin of spray paint, >> script||die painted this mural: >> >> <snip> >> >>> Well speak of the devil, wickerman! That free 10.3 install I was talking >>> about, the one that's been grinding since 2003 without intervention, it >>> stopped showing images in FF, something I was going to fix it this >>> evening. It was a dual boot with dozeXP aboard too but never used. The >>> owner told me a week ago but couldn't wait >> >> They never heard of patience? Maybe searching Google? How about 5 mins >> on a phone, when you have that 5 mins to spare? >>> and called out a 'tech' who >> ^^^^^^ >> Oh dear. > > This one was rather peculiar. He just wanted something to run like a > tank doing net browsing, email and absolutely nothing else. Patience is > another story, ever see people clicking incessantly until the window > does open and then have 10 of them fullscreen one over the other? Sounds like Ed Gruberman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti_Kwan_Leep >>> immediately erased everything on both drives, >> >> Why the hell did he wipe the Windows drive? More to the point, why did >> he wipe _both_ drives? > > A youngster I think, wanted to show off that he had graduated to an > installation expert. So a clueless newbie. And I bet he didn't even think about backing up personal documents before he wiped everything[0]. >> Sounds like he thinks he's found someone who can become an easy source >> of money. > > He's going to be surprised. I do enjoy it when things don't quite go to plan. >>> It's only a question of time :-) >> >> That's especially true if he's going to charge loads of money and you >> were providing help for free, or just a cuppa. You'll probably want to >> get at least two or three cuppas because I can foresee them not setting >> them up with any antivirus software and they've quite probably become >> infected. > > Hell I was just kidding, if he gets stuck I'll clone him another > freebee :-) Pity he wasn't satisfied with a live CD to start with. That's about the best you can get for web browsing and email. > I'm working on a little kit to make it really easy (on myself). Do tell. [0] Everything after the 'k' is probably superfluous. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 11.0 32b | | | openSUSE 11.3M0 32b openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11
From: Stephen Horne on 26 Jan 2010 01:20 On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:45:45 -0500, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap(a)library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote: >>Since you can now buy 3.5in internal >>hard drives for not much more per GB that DVD-Rs, > >Are you comparing the costs of the drives or the costs of the media? Only >the latter is relevant. That's the point of "treating the docking station as the drive". You can't reasonably buy the actual hard disk separately from the rest of the internal hard drive mechanism, but you can buy as many internal drives as you need (treating them as the media) and buy a single USB hard disk docking station per machine (treating it as the drive). The main issue being that while the per GB cost is quite reasonable, the per unit cost obviously isn't practical for a lot of things. That said, some tape formats have been both more expensive and less convenient. As for the cost of the drive being irrelevant, that really depends. I did once own a tape drive - a Seagate thing, I think, and one of the few designed for home users. The tapes were 1.6GB IIRC (advertised as 3.2GB with compression), and I only ever needed 3 tapes. The tapes weren't cheap, but the cost of the drive was still more than the cost of all media used in its whole lifetime. It was also a terrible backup system - or rather the provided software was a terrible restore solution. The backups themselves were quick enough, but the restores made the tape seek for every individual file - I kid you not! When I discovered that, I made sure that everything stored on the tapes was zipped up (fewer larger files, fewer seeks) and decided it wasn't worthwhile to backup the whole system as I'd never complete a full restore anyway - much quicker and easier to reinstall everything from scratch.
From: script||die on 27 Jan 2010 19:57 On 01/25/2010 04:25 PM, David Bolt wrote: > On Monday 25 Jan 2010 18:56, while playing with a tin of spray paint, > script||die painted this mural: > > So a clueless newbie. And I bet he didn't even think about backing up > personal documents before he wiped everything[0]. It's a popular handicap: computing=windows, you know the folklore I'm sure. >> I'm working on a little kit to make it really easy (on myself). > > Do tell. Not ready yet. I'm going to delegate-back the installation itself to begin with. The more you do for newcomers the less they appreciate it. That said, a lot needs to be fixed so I'll hand them a step-by-step install guide I'm making with which they can follow up after a deep water session with fdisk where it all has to begin.
From: JT on 28 Jan 2010 04:01
On 28/01/10 08:57, houghi wrote: > script||die wrote: > >> Not ready yet. I'm going to delegate-back the installation itself to >> begin with. The more you do for newcomers the less they appreciate it. >> > One of the things to get apriciated is not to look down on them and > appriciate them. I do not need apriciation, so I tell them off any way I > can. > > However if I would wnat appreciation, I would talk nice to and with > them. > > >> That said, a lot needs to be fixed so I'll hand them a step-by-step >> install guide I'm making with which they can follow up after a deep >> water session with fdisk where it all has to begin. >> > I am a bit afraid of that install guide if they have to work with fdisk. > The standard openSUSE live CD and openSUSE DVD are one of the easiest > installs and are pretty well documented. Just print out the install > guides there. > Agree here (as if that matters or anyone cares ...) : used this to upgrade my acer-aspire-one from this rigid Linpus (pus BTW is dutch for nasty stuff which in English is written with double-s, describing Linpus rather accurate) to openSuSE (11.2, if you really want to know). Was impressed by the functionality that was available. Only thing that I found not to work was the 'horizontal scroll' via the touchpad. Sound/Battery monitoring/built in camera, you name it and it works from scratch. So tweaking your own set of rpm's, although it might be fun (if you know what you're doing, which OP clearly does not - sorry OP) sounds rather silly if you want things to work quickly. But I did not read the whole thread from the start, so I might've missed a point (or 3). > If you want some specific things, and configuration (not sure why, > because the standard installation works great for millions) and they are > complete idfiots, tell then the following things at the end of the > instalation: call me when you are done. > > Then you do the following: > 1) Let them go to "whatismyip.org" and read out what they see > 2) ssh to that adress as root and ask for the root password > 3) Do whatever you need to do. Some things you must do > a) Make a new user for yourself > b) Configure it so you have dyndns and can go to it each time > you need, unless there is a connection problem > > At that moment you are ready to srew up their system as much as you > want. > > > houghi > -- Kind regards, JT |