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From: Shmuel Metz on 28 Jan 2010 06:54 In <hjkpcr$dvu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, on 01/25/2010 at 01:56 PM, script||die <nomail.nospam@_INVALID_no.org> said: >A youngster I think, wanted to show off that he had graduated to an >installation expert. ITYM that he had failed to graduate to an installation expert :-( -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> Unsolicited bulk E-mail subject to legal action. I reserve the right to publicly post or ridicule any abusive E-mail. Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+news to contact me. Do not reply to spamtrap(a)library.lspace.org
From: Shmuel Metz on 28 Jan 2010 07:04 In <gv0tl59s2a7g5in7gcg0kj1r39e4l7batc(a)4ax.com>, on 01/26/2010 at 06:20 AM, Stephen Horne <sh006d3592(a)blueyonder.co.uk> said: >As for the cost of the drive being irrelevant, that really depends. I did >once own a tape drive - a Seagate thing, I think, and one of the few >designed for home users. The tapes were 1.6GB IIRC (advertised as 3.2GB >with compression), and I only ever needed 3 tapes. No off-site backups? No old backups in case of a finger check that you didn't catch until months later? >When I discovered that, I made sure that everything stored on the tapes >was zipped up I zip backups to DVD as well, but that's more for capacity reasons than anything else. Maybe I should do incrementals and only do full backups once a month or so. >wasn't worthwhile to backup the whole system My data are larger than my OS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> Unsolicited bulk E-mail subject to legal action. I reserve the right to publicly post or ridicule any abusive E-mail. Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+news to contact me. Do not reply to spamtrap(a)library.lspace.org
From: JT on 29 Jan 2010 10:15 On 29/01/10 12:33, houghi wrote: > Shmuel Metz wrote: > >> I zip backups to DVD as well, but that's more for capacity reasons than >> anything else. Maybe I should do incrementals and only do full backups >> once a month or so. >> > I do incremental backups twice a day. Almost nothing offsite. If My PC > burns down,. I have bigger problems then dealing with the loss of data. > > houghi > Same here, no offsite storage (that's nice for the workplace). 'Just' an external USB drive and a 'rsync' script to do increments of '/home' (OS can be re-installed easily) on a regular basis (effectively incremental). Of course the USB drive is not mounted when doing regular work on the pc. Nice addon - if I say so myself - I use loopback device and encryption for the backup file on that USB drive. So no worries if the disk gets 'lost to strangers' - at least no worry 'bout the data. -- Kind regards, JT
From: JT on 30 Jan 2010 10:12 On 29/01/10 19:47, houghi wrote: > JT wrote: > >> Same here, no offsite storage (that's nice for the workplace). 'Just' an >> external USB drive and a 'rsync' script to do increments of '/home' (OS >> can be re-installed easily) on a regular basis (effectively >> incremental). Of course the USB drive is not mounted when doing regular >> work on the pc. >> > No external drive here, just a seperate drive which I mount read only. > Also a bit more then just /home > /var/spool/mail > /etc > /srv > /usr/local > a mysql dump and some other small directories > > Reinstalling can be done easily. reconfiguration is also a nice thing > and many things are in /etc > Scripts I made myself are often in /usr/local, although I start to get > lazy and just put them in ~/bin as I am the only user and have easier > write access there. > > houghi > Point, will look into /etc/. Rest is not used (don't run mailserver and scripts are in ~/bin/). /etc/ is a vulnarability in my setup - I agree. -- Kind regards, JT
From: Stephen Horne on 1 Feb 2010 04:02
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:04:55 -0500, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap(a)library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote: >In <gv0tl59s2a7g5in7gcg0kj1r39e4l7batc(a)4ax.com>, on 01/26/2010 > at 06:20 AM, Stephen Horne <sh006d3592(a)blueyonder.co.uk> said: > >>As for the cost of the drive being irrelevant, that really depends. I did >>once own a tape drive - a Seagate thing, I think, and one of the few >>designed for home users. The tapes were 1.6GB IIRC (advertised as 3.2GB >>with compression), and I only ever needed 3 tapes. > >No off-site backups? No old backups in case of a finger check that you >didn't catch until months later? 1 tape at home 1 tape left at work 1 tape so I always had two valid backups, even while doing a backup Primary copy on home hard disk on a 1GB partition that seemed wildly excessive at the time. The whole hard drive was, IIRC, 3.2GB. >>wasn't worthwhile to backup the whole system > >My data are larger than my OS. That's the whole point - the OS and installed software weren't worth backing up because the restore was too painful. |