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From: -hh on 28 Oct 2009 17:01 On Oct 28, 2:06 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:01:43 -0700 (PDT), -hh > <recscuba_goo...(a)huntzinger.com> wrote in > <5b20e682-f171-418a-8260-68d56ca2f...(a)g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>: > > >John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> Nope. As I detailed recently here, the price point for even a basic, > >> much less capable dSLR alternative is well over $1,000, with even the > >> $3,000 level still not measuring up. > > >The fact remains that dSLRs prices start at $400. > > Nope. Pentax K2000 SLR Digital Camera with 18-55mm Lens: Note that I'm not even trying to claim the $339 price found at FUMFIE.COM as legit, because this business is listed on the website of known Brooklynn fraudsters as #71. Ditto for the ibuydigital and amdv websites. <https://www.fumfie.com/pshow/?id=178.5> <http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0071.htm> So for clearly reputable vendors, prices are: $399 at Sam's Club; $419.88 at Adorama. You're free to quibble over the minutia...as we know that you invariably will. -hh
From: John Navas on 28 Oct 2009 18:58 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:01:41 -0700 (PDT), -hh <recscuba_google(a)huntzinger.com> wrote in <76b32504-f9d3-4bdf-8477-16ceb8249fe6(a)v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>: >On Oct 28, 2:06�pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:01:43 -0700 (PDT), -hh >> <recscuba_goo...(a)huntzinger.com> wrote in >> <5b20e682-f171-418a-8260-68d56ca2f...(a)g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> >> Nope. �As I detailed recently here, the price point for even a basic, >> >> much less capable dSLR alternative is well over $1,000, with even the >> >> $3,000 level still not measuring up. Canon. >> >The fact remains that dSLRs prices start at $400. >> >> Nope. > >Pentax K2000 SLR Digital Camera with 18-55mm Lens: $500 at B&H, not something I'd foist onto anyone, and not comparable to a compact digital super-zoom. Better Nikon D3000 kit is $669, drawback of having to change lenses. More comparable Nikon D3000 kit is $984, drawback of having to change lenses. Most comparable Nikon lens (AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II Zoom Lens) is $850 alone, still not as capable. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: tony cooper on 28 Oct 2009 19:39 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:58:50 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >Canon. > >>> >The fact remains that dSLRs prices start at $400. >>> >>> Nope. >> >>Pentax K2000 SLR Digital Camera with 18-55mm Lens: > >$500 at B&H, not something I'd foist onto anyone, >and not comparable to a compact digital super-zoom. Who was it that said that the dslr people are "smugly superior"? -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: John Navas on 28 Oct 2009 20:06 On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:39:44 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in <oelhe5hljo9dhdjpo2g8se40hu22epdnv4(a)4ax.com>: >On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:58:50 -0700, John Navas ><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >>Canon. >> >>>> >The fact remains that dSLRs prices start at $400. >>>> >>>> Nope. >>> >>>Pentax K2000 SLR Digital Camera with 18-55mm Lens: >> >>$500 at B&H, not something I'd foist onto anyone, >>and not comparable to a compact digital super-zoom. > >Who was it that said that the dslr people are "smugly superior"? Do you have and use a K2000 kit? Why did you snip my assessment of more comparable (albeit more expensive) dSLR (Nikon D3000) kit? Do you really think it's reasonable to compare the cheapest and least capable dSLR as a realistic alternative to less expensive and more capable compact digital cameras? A reasonable dSLR alternative to my Panasonic FZ28, even with budget lenses instead of a Leica lens, costs at least $1,000 (on sale): <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/655321-REG/Nikon__D3000_Digital_SLR_Camera.html> -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: John Navas on 28 Oct 2009 20:28
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:06:09 -0700, John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in <5tlhe554ac88tnvmmmjlq32of2iedht35g(a)4ax.com>: >A reasonable dSLR alternative to my Panasonic FZ28, even with budget >lenses instead of a Leica lens, costs at least $1,000 (on sale): ><http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/655321-REG/Nikon__D3000_Digital_SLR_Camera.html> What most appeals to me in the dSLR realm at the moment is the Panasonic GH1 with 14-140mm f/4-5.8 lens, but I would have to cough/give up $1,500, a full stop of lens speed, some telephoto reach, and Leica IQ. <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/608940-REG/Panasonic_DMC_GH1K_Lumix_DMC_GH1_Digital_Camera.html> -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams |