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From: MrSoftware on 2 Apr 2010 03:23 [1] I will try the manual fixes mentioned in KB 971058 tomorrow afternoon (USA CST) and post the results. Note the manual fixes are only recommended after the 'agressive' mode of FixIt 50202 fails (which happened to me). "MrSoftware" wrote: > [1] I tried MS Fixit 50202 - Reset WU components - in both (a) default (b) > agressive mode. > > Neither mode worked to fix the problem. > > I go to the primary MS WU site (www.windowsupdate.microsoft.com) and come up > with a blank page. > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > > Repost: Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the > > computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought > > it)? > > > > So the Windows Update problem started when you had AVG installed: What > > exactly was the problem (e.g., 0x8DDD0004 or other errors) and did you ever > > get it resolved? > > > > Are you having any other problems (e.g., search redirects; "Page cannot be > > displayed" errors; cannot open Task Manager, Regedit, or Internet Options)? > > > > Is Automatic Updates enabled? If not, can you enable it, reboot, and then > > find it's still enabled? > > > > Is *Microsoft* Security Essentials automatically updating itself at least > > one every 24 hours? > > > > Can you access & update manually via http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com (not > > any other link)? [I know you may have answered this in another thread but > > I'd like you to answer it in this thread, too.] > > > > Have you tried doing a Reset yet? => http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 > > [Tip: Run the Fix It in Default and Aggressive modes, if necessary.] > > -- > > ~PA Bear > > > > > > MrSoftware wrote: > > > I'm using (a) 'MS Windows Security Essentials' (MS-WSE) and (b) MS > > > Windows Firewall. > > > > > > I normally run ZoneAlarm (firewall) and AVG (Virus checker) but > > > uninstalled > > > them for the above MS solutions inorder to fix some problems with MS > > > (MicroSoft) WU (Windows Update). > > > > > > The whole system was scanned (via MS-WSE) just before I started to get > > > some > > > problems with MS WU. > > > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > >> So you stated your full Windows version in this post, I see. > > >> > > >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your > > >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than > > >> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? > > >> > > >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the > > >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you > > >> bought > > >> it)? > > >> > > >> > > >> MrSoftware wrote: > > >>> Does anyone know how to (1) download and (2) reinstall the WuWeb active > > >>> X > > >>> control? > > >>> > > >>> My IE 8 - Version 8.0.6001.18702 - Build 86001 > > >>> > > >>> Thanks ahead of time :-) > > >>> > > >>> //------------------------------- > > >>> > > >>> Just FYI and background info is below. > > >>> > > >>> I opened an MS support case (SRX1057345742) on a Windows Update problem > > >>> (XP SP3 - March 2010 all updates except one). > > >>> > > >>> There was an update (Rights Management Services Client : KB979099) that > > >>> would NOT install (all other MS updates installed fine). > > >>> > > >>> Of the many 'fixes' we tried none worked. Eventually Windows Update > > >>> started > > >>> to 'break down'. I'm just trying to bring back the Windows update page. > > >>> > > >>> Currently, when I try IE 8 - Windows Update - I just get a blank page > > >>> on; > > >>> > > >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Discovered files A9Helper.A9 > > >>> HidInputMonitorX Control > > >>> WuWebControl Class > > >> > > >> . > > > > . > >
From: MrSoftware on 2 Apr 2010 03:31 [1] Thank you for the clarification of 'Windows update' (WU) vs 'Microsoft Update' (MU). [2] When I first looked into this I tried every 'Manage Addons' drop down possible. The 'all addons' does not list the MUWeb control. [3] I do get one 'update' kind of ActiveX control listed in 'all addons' which is; Update Class - Microsoft Windows XP Publisher - 5.4.3790.14 - Active X Control Its (a) dated 8/23/2003 and (b) I have no idea what this ActiveX is (part of WU/MU??). "williamtell" wrote: > BTW, > > Windows Update is no more, Microsoft Update is the site now. The add on is > MUWebControlClass, when at Manage Add-ons, click the dropdown>click all > add-ons, > Do you see the MU control? > > "williamtell" <wt(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message > news:erZ$7ch0KHA.3652(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > Try this: > > Click tools>internet options>general tab/settings>yiew objects > > Do you see/ WUWebControlClass? > > > >>WT< > > > > "MrSoftware" <MrSoftware(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:7598EB9D-2EFA-484C-97A8-5059C539FCE7(a)microsoft.com... > >> Note : I still do not seem to have the WuWeb ActiveX control coming up in > >> the > >> IE 8 'Manage Addons' list. > >> > >> I hope I am understanding the 'Manage Addons' list correctly. > >> I see the newly installed 'SelfHelpControl.DLL' (MS Genuine Advantage SS > >> tool). > >> > >> But I do not see the 'WuWeb' ActiveX control. > >> > >> "MrSoftware" wrote: > >> > >>> Well, I did some checking on this. > >>> > >>> [1] To get the 'new' wuweb.dll I downloaded and installed the latest > >>> version > >>> of WUA (Windows Update Agent) from the following url. > >>> > >>> WSUS is currently distributing version WUA 7.4.7600.226 > >>> > >>> x86: > >>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/7.4.7600.26/windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe > >>> > >>> x64: > >>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/7.4.7600.226/windowsupdateagent30-x64.exe > >>> > >>> Itanium: > >>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/7.4.7600.26/windowsupdateagent30-ia64.exe > >>> > >>> I installed x86 and verified it. > >>> > >>> So I now have the latest version of wuweb.dll (as far as I know). > >>> > >>> "MrSoftware" wrote: > >>> > >>> > Does anyone know how to (1) download and (2) reinstall the WuWeb > >>> > active X > >>> > control? > >>> > > >>> > My IE 8 - Version 8.0.6001.18702 - Build 86001 > >>> > > >>> > Thanks ahead of time :-) > >>> > > >>> > //------------------------------- > >>> > > >>> > Just FYI and background info is below. > >>> > > >>> > I opened an MS support case (SRX1057345742) on a Windows Update > >>> > problem > >>> > (XP SP3 - March 2010 all updates except one). > >>> > > >>> > There was an update (Rights Management Services Client : KB979099) > >>> > that > >>> > would NOT install (all other MS updates installed fine). > >>> > > >>> > Of the many 'fixes' we tried none worked. Eventually Windows Update > >>> > started > >>> > to 'break down'. I'm just trying to bring back the Windows update > >>> > page. > >>> > > >>> > Currently, when I try IE 8 - Windows Update - I just get a blank page > >>> > on; > >>> > > >>> > http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Discovered files A9Helper.A9 > >>> > HidInputMonitorX Control > >>> > WuWebControl Class > >>> > > > > > > > > . >
From: MrSoftware on 2 Apr 2010 03:33 [1] Then WU (Windows Update) and MU (Microsoft Update) currently coexist? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > williamtell wrote: > > BTW, Windows Update is no more, Microsoft Update is the site now. > > Sorry, Tell, but your arrow missed the apple this time... > > <QP> > What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and > Microsoft Updates? > > While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows, > Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for > other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live. > Automatic updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to > automatically download and install updates using either service, making it > easy and convenient for you to keep your Windows PC current. > </QP> > Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/windowsupdate/FAQ.mspx > > . >
From: williamtell on 2 Apr 2010 10:11 Oh well, had an itch! "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23kDPXwi0KHA.4412(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > williamtell wrote: >> BTW, Windows Update is no more, Microsoft Update is the site now. > > Sorry, Tell, but your arrow missed the apple this time... > > <QP> > What are the differences between Windows Updates, Automatic Updates, and > Microsoft Updates? > > While Windows Update provides you with updates specifically for Windows, > Microsoft Update expands the service to download and install updates for > other Microsoft software, such as Microsoft Office and Windows Live. > Automatic updating is a feature that allows you to set your PC to > automatically download and install updates using either service, making it > easy and convenient for you to keep your Windows PC current. > </QP> > Source: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/windowsupdate/FAQ.mspx
From: MrSoftware on 2 Apr 2010 10:55
I was able to try the fix below a little earlier than expected. Note below - I call 1.a and 1.b 'lobotomies' for the sake of brevity herein. [1] MS KB 971058 has 4 'fixes' as follows. (a) FixIt 50202 - Mode default (b) FixIt 50202 - Mode agressive (c) WU minor lobotomy - Without 'step 4' (d) WU major lobotomy - With 'step 4' (reset BITS and WUAU security descriptors) [2] I tryed 1.a and 1.b previously - both failed. [3] I tryed 1.c and that failed with some anomalies as follows. mshtml.dll Missing entry point - not registered wucltux.dll Not found - Verified as not in my XP system wuwebv.dll Not found - Verified as not in my XP system The identity verification info for mshtml.dll (that is on my system is) MD5 = 7054f6adc9b670887659f1561603b0d0 Sha1 = 2a2ecfb4f15e6f9f0a743726c08bc158833634da Sha512 = 0250c4efa46796e94d0b8bc6b7ad24d4a08b9a08a7f316c3977e76476bc6774d69d18e6cbfceb6d7ade048be6fa5e59954e053e366c2fdd70262d4ab879d430b Size = 5,806 KB Date = 2/25/1010 - 1:24 am Version = 8.0.6001.18904 I used Nirsoft's dll tool - DLL Export Viewer and verified the DLL is missing an entry point for registration. [4] I'll post the DLL export list after this post. [5] I'll try the 'WU major lobotomy' after I do [4] above. "MrSoftware" wrote: > [1] I will try the manual fixes mentioned in KB 971058 tomorrow afternoon > (USA CST) and post the results. > > Note the manual fixes are only recommended after the 'agressive' mode of > FixIt 50202 fails (which happened to me). > > "MrSoftware" wrote: > > > [1] I tried MS Fixit 50202 - Reset WU components - in both (a) default (b) > > agressive mode. > > > > Neither mode worked to fix the problem. > > > > I go to the primary MS WU site (www.windowsupdate.microsoft.com) and come up > > with a blank page. > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > > > > Repost: Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the > > > computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought > > > it)? > > > > > > So the Windows Update problem started when you had AVG installed: What > > > exactly was the problem (e.g., 0x8DDD0004 or other errors) and did you ever > > > get it resolved? > > > > > > Are you having any other problems (e.g., search redirects; "Page cannot be > > > displayed" errors; cannot open Task Manager, Regedit, or Internet Options)? > > > > > > Is Automatic Updates enabled? If not, can you enable it, reboot, and then > > > find it's still enabled? > > > > > > Is *Microsoft* Security Essentials automatically updating itself at least > > > one every 24 hours? > > > > > > Can you access & update manually via http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com (not > > > any other link)? [I know you may have answered this in another thread but > > > I'd like you to answer it in this thread, too.] > > > > > > Have you tried doing a Reset yet? => http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 > > > [Tip: Run the Fix It in Default and Aggressive modes, if necessary.] > > > -- > > > ~PA Bear > > > > > > > > > MrSoftware wrote: > > > > I'm using (a) 'MS Windows Security Essentials' (MS-WSE) and (b) MS > > > > Windows Firewall. > > > > > > > > I normally run ZoneAlarm (firewall) and AVG (Virus checker) but > > > > uninstalled > > > > them for the above MS solutions inorder to fix some problems with MS > > > > (MicroSoft) WU (Windows Update). > > > > > > > > The whole system was scanned (via MS-WSE) just before I started to get > > > > some > > > > problems with MS WU. > > > > > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > > >> So you stated your full Windows version in this post, I see. > > > >> > > > >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your > > > >> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than > > > >> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)? > > > >> > > > >> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the > > > >> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you > > > >> bought > > > >> it)? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> MrSoftware wrote: > > > >>> Does anyone know how to (1) download and (2) reinstall the WuWeb active > > > >>> X > > > >>> control? > > > >>> > > > >>> My IE 8 - Version 8.0.6001.18702 - Build 86001 > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks ahead of time :-) > > > >>> > > > >>> //------------------------------- > > > >>> > > > >>> Just FYI and background info is below. > > > >>> > > > >>> I opened an MS support case (SRX1057345742) on a Windows Update problem > > > >>> (XP SP3 - March 2010 all updates except one). > > > >>> > > > >>> There was an update (Rights Management Services Client : KB979099) that > > > >>> would NOT install (all other MS updates installed fine). > > > >>> > > > >>> Of the many 'fixes' we tried none worked. Eventually Windows Update > > > >>> started > > > >>> to 'break down'. I'm just trying to bring back the Windows update page. > > > >>> > > > >>> Currently, when I try IE 8 - Windows Update - I just get a blank page > > > >>> on; > > > >>> > > > >>> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Discovered files A9Helper.A9 > > > >>> HidInputMonitorX Control > > > >>> WuWebControl Class > > > >> > > > >> . > > > > > > . > > > |