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From: Ari Silverstein on 23 Jun 2010 12:34 On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:23:18 +0200, FredW wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:14:13 -0400, Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote: > >>My original post was simple enough. If you weren't using the app and >>had no real honest imput from one's own experience, then don't reply. > > In a newsgroup anyone can react to anything. > There is no way you can "forbid" someone to reply. > > And the "product" you are talking about is not a new product. > It is just another addition to "Advanced System Crash" of IOBit. > >>The answers that that came back were that of pure hear say at the >>least, > > No, they were not. > The answers came from insiders and has nothing to do with "hear-say". > > http://www.iobit.com/ > "How to speed up my slow PC" > If you believe that, you believe anything, also thieves. > > Have a nice day. So tell me, Fred, what softwares do you use and how do you vet the companies ethics? -- Talk about F-Cars - www.ferrarichat.com/forum/member.php?u=89702
From: Franklin on 23 Jun 2010 13:31 FredW wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:13:50 -0400, Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote: >>It happens that [ZO] formulated : >>> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>> >>> >>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download >>>> item at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) >>>> Didn't see any major problems or complaints in their forums) >>> >>> Don't support these thieves ! >>> >>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >> >>Well now I think that was about one companys' word against another. > > Yes, the word of a thief against the word of someone robbed. Me too. In the past I've found Malwarebytes to be good and would imagine they operate more honorably that some upstart Chinese outfit. >>Orbit's explanation seems valid to me > > I know the explanation of Malwarebytes is valid. > > >> and judging from the growing >>number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks, it appears others have >>accepted it as well. > > Probably because they are not informed of the theft by IObit? > (It looks like your "conclusion" is only based on wishful thinking)
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 17:32 From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> | It happens that [ZO] formulated : >> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download item >>> at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) Didn't see >>> any major problems or complaints in their forums) >> Don't support these thieves ! >> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 | Well now I think that was about one companys' word against another. | Orbit's explanation seems valid to me and judging from the growing | number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks, it appears others have | accepted it as well. | http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807 | Thanks for the feedback. No. They stole the database. There is NO DOUBT about it. Their detection rate sored when they implemented them and their detection rate dropped when they removed them. Their "growing number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks" means absolutely nothing. Like you, they have no idea about their plagiarism. As a MBAM employee I knew what was going on and I know the MBAM database and HOW they could have obtained it. Malwarebytes laid a trap for IOBit and they fell right into it. It wasn't until they fell into that trap was the subject matter disclosed publicly. What people fail to recognize is that the Chinese do NOT understand what "Intellectual Property Rights" are. The Chinese steal from other countries every hour of every day and do whatever they can to make China a "world leader". Why do you think China is the "knock off" capital of the world ? I could produce NUMEREOUS examples from Disney movies to archetectual drawings. As a malware researcher I know how Chinese Malware is used to exfiltrate data to gain a "competitive edge". I also have other information from another source that I can't even discuss. This is not "one companys' word against another". Marcin and Bruce created non-malicious fake malware and created a signature pattern and included it in the MBAM Database. When IObit was found to detect this "never released" and "fake malware" using the detection name Marcin and Bruce created, there was no doubt. IOBit had plagiarized the database. This was a well thought out trap and IOBit fell right into it. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 17:34 From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> | [ZO] brought next idea : >> Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in >> news:hvrhve$3jq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: >>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download item >>> at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) Didn't see >>> any major problems or complaints in their forums) >> Uh, no.. The company has less than.. decent work ethics.. See here: >> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 | Don't jump to conclusions without researching all of the facts. See my | reply to David. WRONG ! As employees of Malwarebytes WE had INTIMATE knowledge of this subject matter ! -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 17:39
From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> | Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in news:hvstsp$iqb$1(a)news.eternal- | september.org: >> [ZO] brought next idea : >>> Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in >>> news:hvrhve$3jq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: >>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download item >>>> at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) Didn't see >>>> any major problems or complaints in their forums) >>> Uh, no.. The company has less than.. decent work ethics.. See here: >>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >> Don't jump to conclusions without researching all of the facts. See my >> reply to David. | heh.. David and myself are both former employees of malwarebytes who worked | in the research dept. I assure you, we have researched all the facts and | this is not a case of jumping to conclusions. We have seen what iodid with | our own eyes. It was very hard to miss our work inside their database. +10 I remember "our" discussions PRIOR to Marcin releasing the news. { I won't go any further than that } -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |