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From: Zo on 23 Jun 2010 18:58 [ZO] expressed precisely : > From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> > > >> [ZO] brought next idea : >>> Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in >>> news:hvrhve$3jq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download item >>>> at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) Didn't see >>>> any major problems or complaints in their forums) > >>> Uh, no.. The company has less than.. decent work ethics.. See here: > >>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 > >> Don't jump to conclusions without researching all of the facts. See my >> reply to David. > > WRONG ! > > As employees of Malwarebytes WE had INTIMATE knowledge of this subject matter > ! and what court date has been set? And on another note: I guess it would rather difficult to take the chinese to court and win seeing they practical own this country. -- Zo "Support your local Search and Rescue unit -- get lost."
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 19:01 From: "Bear Bottoms" <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in | news:hvtvj10i46(a)news6.newsguy.com: >> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>| It happens that [ZO] formulated : >>>> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download >>>>> item at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) >>>>> Didn't see any major problems or complaints in their forums) >>>> Don't support these thieves ! >>>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >>| Well now I think that was about one companys' word against another. >>| Orbit's explanation seems valid to me and judging from the growing >>| number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks, it appears others have >>| accepted it as well. >>| http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807 >>| Thanks for the feedback. >> No. They stole the database. There is NO DOUBT about it. >> Their detection rate sored when they implemented them and their >> detection rate dropped when they removed them. >> Their "growing number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks" means >> absolutely nothing. Like you, they have no idea about their >> plagiarism. As a MBAM employee I knew what was going on and I know >> the MBAM database and HOW they could have obtained it. Malwarebytes >> laid a trap for IOBit and they fell right into it. It wasn't until >> they fell into that trap was the subject matter disclosed publicly. >> What people fail to recognize is that the Chinese do NOT understand >> what "Intellectual Property Rights" are. The Chinese steal from other >> countries every hour of every day and do whatever they can to make >> China a "world leader". Why do you think China is the "knock off" >> capital of the world ? >> I could produce NUMEREOUS examples from Disney movies to archetectual >> drawings. As a malware researcher I know how Chinese Malware is used >> to exfiltrate data to gain a "competitive edge". I also have other >> information from another source that I can't even discuss. >> This is not "one companys' word against another". >> Marcin and Bruce created non-malicious fake malware and created a >> signature pattern and included it in the MBAM Database. When IObit >> was found to detect this "never released" and "fake malware" using the >> detection name Marcin and Bruce created, there was no doubt. IOBit had >> plagiarized the database. This was a well thought out trap and IOBit >> fell right into it. | And you or MBAM filed a lawsuit? The MBAM solicitor contacted IObit. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 19:02 From: "Bear Bottoms" <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in | news:hvtvvc0i8u(a)news6.newsguy.com: >> From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> >>| Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in news:hvstsp$iqb$1(a)news.eternal- >>| september.org: >>>> [ZO] brought next idea : >>>>> Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in >>>>> news:hvrhve$3jq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: >>>>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download >>>>>> item at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) >>>>>> Didn't see any major problems or complaints in their forums) >>>>> Uh, no.. The company has less than.. decent work ethics.. See here: >>>>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >>>> Don't jump to conclusions without researching all of the facts. See >>>> my reply to David. >>| heh.. David and myself are both former employees of malwarebytes who >>| worked in the research dept. I assure you, we have researched all the >>| facts and this is not a case of jumping to conclusions. We have seen >>| what iodid with our own eyes. It was very hard to miss our work >>| inside their database. >> +10 >> I remember "our" discussions PRIOR to Marcin releasing the news. >> { I won't go any further than that } | and the case number is? Yours ? 666 -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 19:05 From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> | [ZO] expressed precisely : >> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>> [ZO] brought next idea : >>>> Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in >>>> news:hvrhve$3jq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: >>>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download item >>>>> at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) Didn't see >>>>> any major problems or complaints in their forums) >>>> Uh, no.. The company has less than.. decent work ethics.. See here: >>>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >>> Don't jump to conclusions without researching all of the facts. See my >>> reply to David. >> WRONG ! >> As employees of Malwarebytes WE had INTIMATE knowledge of this subject matter >> ! | and what court date has been set? | And on another note: I guess it would rather difficult to take the | chinese to court and win seeing they practical own this country. As previously stated... "The MBAM solicitor contacted IObit." -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Zo on 23 Jun 2010 19:40
[ZO] presented the following explanation : > From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> > > >> It happens that [ZO] formulated : >>> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> > > >>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download item >>>> at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) Didn't see >>>> any major problems or complaints in their forums) > >>> Don't support these thieves ! > >>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 > >> Well now I think that was about one companys' word against another. > >> Orbit's explanation seems valid to me and judging from the growing >> number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks, it appears others have >> accepted it as well. > >> http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807 > >> Thanks for the feedback. > > No. They stole the database. There is NO DOUBT about it. > > Their detection rate sored when they implemented them and their detection > rate dropped when they removed them. > > Their "growing number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks" means absolutely > nothing. Like you, they have no idea about their plagiarism. As a MBAM > employee I knew what was going on and I know the MBAM database and HOW they > could have obtained it. Malwarebytes laid a trap for IOBit and they fell > right into it. It wasn't until they fell into that trap was the subject > matter disclosed publicly. > > What people fail to recognize is that the Chinese do NOT understand what > "Intellectual Property Rights" are. The Chinese steal from other countries > every hour of every day and do whatever they can to make China a "world > leader". Why do you think China is the "knock off" capital of the world ? > > I could produce NUMEREOUS examples from Disney movies to archetectual > drawings. As a malware researcher I know how Chinese Malware is used to > exfiltrate data to gain a "competitive edge". I also have other information > from another source that I can't even discuss. > > This is not "one companys' word against another". > Marcin and Bruce created non-malicious fake malware and created a signature > pattern and included it in the MBAM Database. When IObit was found to > detect this "never released" and "fake malware" using the detection name > Marcin and Bruce created, there was no doubt. IOBit had plagiarized the > database. This was a well thought out trap and IOBit fell right into it. I'm beginning to get that feeling I used to get when I was in the work force returning from lunch and had to sit through another half day of a boring seminar......yawn -- Zo Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. |