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From: Dustin Cook on 23 Jun 2010 19:49 Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in news:hvu626$rne$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > [ZO] presented the following explanation : >> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >> >> >>> It happens that [ZO] formulated : >>>> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >> >> >>>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download >>>>> item at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) >>>>> Didn't see any major problems or complaints in their forums) >> >>>> Don't support these thieves ! >> >>>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >> >>> Well now I think that was about one companys' word against another. >> >>> Orbit's explanation seems valid to me and judging from the growing >>> number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks, it appears others have >>> accepted it as well. >> >>> http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807 >> >>> Thanks for the feedback. >> >> No. They stole the database. There is NO DOUBT about it. >> >> Their detection rate sored when they implemented them and their >> detection rate dropped when they removed them. >> >> Their "growing number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks" means >> absolutely nothing. Like you, they have no idea about their >> plagiarism. As a MBAM employee I knew what was going on and I know >> the MBAM database and HOW they could have obtained it. Malwarebytes >> laid a trap for IOBit and they fell right into it. It wasn't until >> they fell into that trap was the subject matter disclosed publicly. >> >> What people fail to recognize is that the Chinese do NOT understand >> what "Intellectual Property Rights" are. The Chinese steal from >> other countries every hour of every day and do whatever they can to >> make China a "world leader". Why do you think China is the "knock >> off" capital of the world ? >> >> I could produce NUMEREOUS examples from Disney movies to archetectual >> drawings. As a malware researcher I know how Chinese Malware is >> used to exfiltrate data to gain a "competitive edge". I also have >> other information from another source that I can't even discuss. >> >> This is not "one companys' word against another". >> Marcin and Bruce created non-malicious fake malware and created a >> signature pattern and included it in the MBAM Database. When IObit >> was found to detect this "never released" and "fake malware" using >> the detection name Marcin and Bruce created, there was no doubt. >> IOBit had plagiarized the database. This was a well thought out trap >> and IOBit fell right into it. > > I'm beginning to get that feeling I used to get when I was in the work > force returning from lunch and had to sit through another half day of > a boring seminar......yawn So, you didn't find education of value then either? That's to be expected, I suppose from some people. -- The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other side of the mountain was all that he could see! So he went back over the mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other side of the mountain was all that he could see! - Green Jelly The Bear Song
From: Dustin Cook on 23 Jun 2010 19:52 Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> wrote in news:Xns9DA0A5FF4C2D8bearbottoms1gmaicom(a)news.albasani.net: > Dustin Cook <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> wrote in > news:Xns9DA07BA7E6AE7HHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.247: > >>> So he says.... If you know for sure that someone is stealing from >>> you , why not take them to court, instead using his own forum to >>> attempt to bash the competition. Frankly I really don't give good >>> rat's a... I'll try it myself and make my own conclusions as I >>> always do. >> >> Well, you've been told about it, so if you use it and support the >> actions of the company, at the end of the day, that's on you. Some >> people have no issues with ethics, and others do as they please >> regardless of the results. >> > > Could you address the court issue? Seems like a valid way to go if > someone stole your material. Until a court rules on it, it is no > better than hearsay, to anyone but someone like you who may know it to > be true, but to validate it for others, you must prove it in court. I can't help you with the court issue. I was not in the legal dept. Again, I was in the research dept. Thanks for your concern anyway. I should thank you also for demonstrating that you have no clue how expensive and difficult it would be for any company in the United States to sue (and actually expect to win anything) a company in China. Stupidity knows no bounds with you, eh? -- The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other side of the mountain was all that he could see! So he went back over the mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other side of the mountain was all that he could see! - Green Jelly The Bear Song
From: Ari Silverstein on 23 Jun 2010 19:52 On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:58:40 -0400, Zo wrote: > and what court date has been set? Oh look, a Bear Bottoms clone, minds of equal stupidity flock together. -- Talk about F-Cars - www.ferrarichat.com/forum/member.php?u=89702
From: Dustin Cook on 23 Jun 2010 19:53 Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in news:hvu3j3$2rh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > [ZO] expressed precisely : >> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >> >> >>> [ZO] brought next idea : >>>> Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in >>>> news:hvrhve$3jq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: >> >>>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download >>>>> item at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) >>>>> Didn't see any major problems or complaints in their forums) >> >>>> Uh, no.. The company has less than.. decent work ethics.. See here: >> >>>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >> >>> Don't jump to conclusions without researching all of the facts. See >>> my reply to David. >> >> WRONG ! >> >> As employees of Malwarebytes WE had INTIMATE knowledge of this >> subject matter ! > > and what court date has been set? > > And on another note: I guess it would rather difficult to take the > chinese to court and win seeing they practical own this country. A court date? seriously? :) C'mon.. you know very well it's impractical to sue a chinese company for copyright infringement. It's not illegal in that country; they're proud of stealing. -- The bear went over the mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other side of the mountain was all that he could see! So he went back over the mountain to see what he could see. Hey! The other side of the mountain was all that he could see! - Green Jelly The Bear Song
From: za kAT on 23 Jun 2010 20:18
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:52:20 GMT, Dustin Cook wrote: > I should thank you also for demonstrating that you have no clue how > expensive and difficult it would be for any company in the United States > to sue (and actually expect to win anything) a company in China. He'd turn tail, and run if his wallet was on the line. -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416. Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration! |