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From: za kAT on 23 Jun 2010 20:21 On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:18:59 +0100, za kAT wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:52:20 GMT, Dustin Cook wrote: > >> I should thank you also for demonstrating that you have no clue how >> expensive and difficult it would be for any company in the United States >> to sue (and actually expect to win anything) a company in China. > > He'd turn tail, and run if his wallet was on the line. I might add, so would I. LOL. -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416. Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration!
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 21:08 From: "Bear Bottoms" <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> | "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in | news:hvu3ov02aea(a)news2.newsguy.com: >> From: "Bear Bottoms" <bearbottoms1(a)gmai.com> >>| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in >>| news:hvtvj10i46(a)news6.newsguy.com: >>>> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>>>| It happens that [ZO] formulated : >>>>>> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>>>>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download >>>>>>> item at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) >>>>>>> Didn't see any major problems or complaints in their forums) >>>>>> Don't support these thieves ! >>>>>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >>>>| Well now I think that was about one companys' word against another. >>>>| Orbit's explanation seems valid to me and judging from the growing >>>>| number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks, it appears others have >>>>| accepted it as well. >>>>| http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807 >>>>| Thanks for the feedback. >>>> No. They stole the database. There is NO DOUBT about it. >>>> Their detection rate sored when they implemented them and their >>>> detection rate dropped when they removed them. >>>> Their "growing number of daily downloads from MajorGeeks" means >>>> absolutely nothing. Like you, they have no idea about their >>>> plagiarism. As a MBAM employee I knew what was going on and I know >>>> the MBAM database and HOW they could have obtained it. Malwarebytes >>>> laid a trap for IOBit and they fell right into it. It wasn't until >>>> they fell into that trap was the subject matter disclosed publicly. >>>> What people fail to recognize is that the Chinese do NOT understand >>>> what "Intellectual Property Rights" are. The Chinese steal from >>>> other countries every hour of every day and do whatever they can to >>>> make China a "world leader". Why do you think China is the "knock >>>> off" capital of the world ? >>>> I could produce NUMEREOUS examples from Disney movies to >>>> archetectual drawings. As a malware researcher I know how Chinese >>>> Malware is used to exfiltrate data to gain a "competitive edge". I >>>> also have other information from another source that I can't even >>>> discuss. >>>> This is not "one companys' word against another". >>>> Marcin and Bruce created non-malicious fake malware and created a >>>> signature pattern and included it in the MBAM Database. When IObit >>>> was found to detect this "never released" and "fake malware" using >>>> the detection name Marcin and Bruce created, there was no doubt. >>>> IOBit had plagiarized the database. This was a well thought out >>>> trap and IOBit fell right into it. >>| And you or MBAM filed a lawsuit? >> The MBAM solicitor contacted IObit. | So there will be no way to show proof of the allegations. Therefore, | there will be no justification to carry on the war. Such is the nature | of closed door negotiations. You might as well stop trashing them, as | you will be in violation of those negotiations. No way! I am in violation of nothing. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 21:10 From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> | Thanks for that, at lease you had first hand experience with it. I | installed it and it only discovered one item that turned out to be a | false positive and that was before I got back on line to update the | database. The update downloaded without any problems, but a short time | after that, I got this alert from my firewall that the actual program | exe attempted to access the internet (which I denied) and then another | one of the files attempted it also (which I denied). I uninstalled it. | A shame because it does have real time protection and incremental | updates, both of which MBAM charges a fee for. Anyway, just to be fair | to both parties, I got rid of MBAM also and installed SAS. That's fine. SAS is Nick Skrepetos' software and it is good. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 23 Jun 2010 21:20 From: "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> | A court date? seriously? :) C'mon.. you know very well it's impractical | to sue a chinese company for copyright infringement. It's not illegal in | that country; they're proud of stealing. Watch this video from 60 minutes. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6423365n&tag=api Take note at about 1.5 minutes into the video. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: Ari Silverstein on 23 Jun 2010 21:31
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:53:59 GMT, Dustin Cook wrote: > Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in > news:hvu3j3$2rh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >> [ZO] expressed precisely : >>> From: "Zo" <homenet(a)newsbill.net> >>> >>> >>>> [ZO] brought next idea : >>>>> Zo <homenet(a)newsbill.net> wrote in >>>>> news:hvrhve$3jq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: >>> >>>>>> Is anyone using this new tool? Seems to be a very hot download >>>>>> item at MajorGeeks (downloaded 2304597 times as of this posting) >>>>>> Didn't see any major problems or complaints in their forums) >>> >>>>> Uh, no.. The company has less than.. decent work ethics.. See here: >>> >>>>> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showtopic=33217 >>> >>>> Don't jump to conclusions without researching all of the facts. See >>>> my reply to David. >>> >>> WRONG ! >>> >>> As employees of Malwarebytes WE had INTIMATE knowledge of this >>> subject matter ! >> >> and what court date has been set? >> >> And on another note: I guess it would rather difficult to take the >> chinese to court and win seeing they practical own this country. > > A court date? seriously? :) C'mon.. you know very well it's impractical > to sue a chinese company for copyright infringement. It's not illegal in > that country; they're proud of stealing. You can sue any foreign company in USA Federal Courts; collection of a financial damages is an issue. -- Talk about F-Cars - www.ferrarichat.com/forum/member.php?u=89702 |