From: krw on
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:02:40 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:13:16 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 13:25:34 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
>><OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:59:44 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am leaning towards the trashed valve notion myself... (?)
>>>
>>> Turn on all hot. Got flow? Turn on all cold. Got flow?
>>>
>>> If the answer to both questions is "yes" then you do not have a mixing
>>>valve problem.
>>
>>AlwaysWrong gets it wrong again. Surprise, surprise.
>
>
> You're a goddamned retard, Williams.

You're always wrong, AlwaysWrong. That being a fact, I'm pretty smart.
From: krw on
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:01:51 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:12:37 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>>
>>I don't buy the flow restrictor theory. The water is already mixed at that
>>point. A clogged shower hear would restrict the flow (to zero, like my
>>apartment in Kent OH, a couple of years ago) but not affect the temperature.
>
> A restricted shower head DOES affect the temp, since the hot is usually
>much less than the cold, the mix valve is pressure AND flow dependent.

You never were good at thermo, DimBulb. That's why you're known as DimBulb.

> A non-restricted head will need a different tap setting to get the same
>temp than a restricted head does, IDIOT!

The temperature won't change, AlwaysWrong.
From: Paul E. Schoen on

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
news:0c6ks55b4nk1bookqfepf46v6kf0gdokq9(a)4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:15:30 -0400, "Paul E. Schoen"
> <paul(a)pstech-inc.com> wrote:
>
>>
>><krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
>>news:ndmjs51archlmttsoagticndmi645jibjg(a)4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:20:02 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Another options is to just stop taking baths altogether.
>>>>...though I'm not sure my clients, friends and family would appreciate
>>>>that!
>>>
>>> No need to go that far. Don't turn on the hot water and your hysteresis
>>> is
>>> fixed. Simple.
>>
>>Also a cheap male contraceptive :)
>>
>>Paul
>
> How so, idiot?
>
> The cold is good for yer nuts. The hot is bad. That is why we grow
> them on the outside.
>
> So, if he is NOT turning on the hot side, how is there any
> contraception?

Not the health of the sperm, but the reduction of the functionality of the
delivery mechanism. Shrinkage!

Paul

From: Baron on
mpm Inscribed thus:

> I don't know if this will help or not -- but honestly, when water IS
> being used elsewhere in the house, it really doesn't seem to make any
> difference.
> In other words, this problem can manifest (or not manifest) even if
> someone else is using water in the house.
>
> It doesn't seem related, and regardless, it does indeed occur if I'm
> the only one home.

Can you confirm that the water pressure for both hot and cold feeds to
the shower/mixer tap are the same.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.
From: Jamie on
Baron wrote:

> mpm Inscribed thus:
>
>
>>I don't know if this will help or not -- but honestly, when water IS
>>being used elsewhere in the house, it really doesn't seem to make any
>>difference.
>>In other words, this problem can manifest (or not manifest) even if
>>someone else is using water in the house.
>>
>>It doesn't seem related, and regardless, it does indeed occur if I'm
>>the only one home.
>
>
> Can you confirm that the water pressure for both hot and cold feeds to
> the shower/mixer tap are the same.
>
My hot water system has an intelligent controller in it. If demand for
water exceeds a level in a period of time. It'll increase the
temperature level and maintain it for ~ 2 hours after non use.

From there on, it keeps it at a lower level to save energy.

So, if I want real hot water when showing, I first need to run the
shower for a bit to force the burner to come on. And then, every one
in the house can take their shower with plenty of real hot water as long
as they do it with in 2 hours each. After that, the system then simply
measures the time of refills and if there is a large gap, it just simply
keeps the water warm..

It does save nicely on fuel oil.