From: Lisi on
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 15:48:03 Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:34:09 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
[snip]
> > I.e. just use your regular 32bit Intel install (i386/x86/i686/IA32 or
> > whichever name you like to use to refer to it).
>
> In Debian is called "i386".

Running Debian Lenny:
lisi(a)Tux:~$ uname -a
Linux Tux 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
lisi(a)Tux:~$



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From: Camaleón on
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:47:44 +0000, Lisi wrote:

> On Tuesday 16 February 2010 15:48:03 Camaleón wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:34:09 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> [snip]
>> > I.e. just use your regular 32bit Intel install (i386/x86/i686/IA32 or
>> > whichever name you like to use to refer to it).
>>
>> In Debian is called "i386".
>
> Running Debian Lenny:
> lisi(a)Tux:~$ uname -a
> Linux Tux 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686
> GNU/Linux lisi(a)Tux:~$

Debian uses "i386" for naming the whole 32 bits architecture:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#id3060035

Other distros use "x86" for i386/i486/i586/i686 packages and "x86_64" for
64 bits. Don't ask me why, I didn't decide those names :-)

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From: Vincent Lefevre on
On 2010-02-16 09:52:06 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> As a bonus, due to various architectural reasons I won't delve into,
> 32bit binaries will usually run slightly faster than the 64 bit
> cousins, and they'll take up a little bit less disk space.

No, this depends on the application (and "usually" doesn't mean very
much because applications will depend on what the machine is used
for). And some people would completely disagree with you, e.g.:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1

There's another point is favor of amd64: floating-point arithmetic.
As SSE is used by default on amd64, FP arithmetic is much cleaner
there in practice.

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From: Kelly Harding on
>
> No, this depends on the application (and "usually" doesn't mean very
> much because applications will depend on what the machine is used
> for). And some people would completely disagree with you, e.g.:
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1
>
> There's another point is favor of amd64: floating-point arithmetic.
> As SSE is used by default on amd64, FP arithmetic is much cleaner
> there in practice.
>
whilst that is true, for a desktop box, 64bit causes more problems
than it is worth i've found, especially with things like Flash.

kelly


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From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on
On 02/17/2010 11:03 AM, Kelly Harding wrote:
> Was still true as of last year sometime, last I checked the 64bit
> flash plugin was in alpha, but i suspect its probably gone past beta
> by now?
>

I'm not sure, I guess it's still called "alpha". But that's just a
label, it's as stable as the 32-bit version.


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