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From: Lisi on 17 Feb 2010 08:10 On Wednesday 17 February 2010 11:59:05 Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:47:44 +0000, Lisi wrote: > > On Tuesday 16 February 2010 15:48:03 Camaleón wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:34:09 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > [snip] >> >> > I.e. just use your regular 32bit Intel install (i386/x86/i686/IA32 or > >> > whichever name you like to use to refer to it). > >> > >> In Debian is called "i386". > > > > Running Debian Lenny: > > lisi(a)Tux:~$ uname -a > > Linux Tux 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686 > > GNU/Linux lisi(a)Tux:~$ > > Debian uses "i386" for naming the whole 32 bits architecture: > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#id3060035 > > Other distros use "x86" for i386/i486/i586/i686 packages and "x86_64" for > 64 bits. Don't ask me why, I didn't decide those names :-) I understand what you are saying, and would not argue with it. - but why then does my system announce itself as i686?? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002171307.51123.lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com
From: Kelly Harding on 17 Feb 2010 08:10 >> > > That might have been true some time ago, but a 64-bit flash plugins exists > since some time already, and works as good (or as bad) as the 32-bit one. > > Nowadays, the only reason I have a 32-bit chroot in my 64-bit system is > because my bank's site only works with the 32-bit Java plugin from Sun. The > Java plugin does exist for 64-bits, but that site in particular does not > work with the 64-bit version (stupid programmers). Was still true as of last year sometime, last I checked the 64bit flash plugin was in alpha, but i suspect its probably gone past beta by now? I'll have to give it a try next time I install a distro on my machine (when i've fixed a hardware failure) and see how I get on with the 64bit version compared with 32bit+PAE. kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e4f72f791002170503x3bb0da67oa9f66220ef1dd3cd(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI on 17 Feb 2010 08:10 On 02/17/2010 10:54 AM, Kelly Harding wrote: > whilst that is true, for a desktop box, 64bit causes more problems > than it is worth i've found, especially with things like Flash. > That might have been true some time ago, but a 64-bit flash plugins exists since some time already, and works as good (or as bad) as the 32-bit one. Nowadays, the only reason I have a 32-bit chroot in my 64-bit system is because my bank's site only works with the 32-bit Java plugin from Sun. The Java plugin does exist for 64-bits, but that site in particular does not work with the 64-bit version (stupid programmers). -- Four thousand throats may be cut in one night by a running man. -- Klingon Soldier, "Day of the Dove", stardate unknown Eduardo M KALINOWSKI eduardo(a)kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4B7BE873.9050903(a)kalinowski.com.br
From: Kelly Harding on 17 Feb 2010 08:20 On 17 February 2010 13:08, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo(a)kalinowski.com.br> wrote: > On 02/17/2010 11:03 AM, Kelly Harding wrote: >> >> Was still true as of last year sometime, last I checked the 64bit >> flash plugin was in alpha, but i suspect its probably gone past beta >> by now? >> > > I'm not sure, I guess it's still called "alpha". But that's just a label, > it's as stable as the 32-bit version. > > I found iwhen I last used it it caused Firefox to crash if I went to BBC iPlayer. The other problem was when the 64bit version didn't work, the 32bit version was run a wrapper and was a resource hog from hell. Certainly not a pleasant time with flash in that regard :/ Will give it a try another time and see if it has improved at all... kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e4f72f791002170511p715232a2l8e68cf43a1763976(a)mail.gmail.com
From: Kumar Appaiah on 17 Feb 2010 08:30
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 01:11:06PM +0000, Kelly Harding wrote: > On 17 February 2010 13:08, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > > > > I'm not sure, I guess it's still called "alpha". But that's just a label, > > it's as stable as the 32-bit version. > > > > > > I found iwhen I last used it it caused Firefox to crash if I went to > BBC iPlayer. > > The other problem was when the 64bit version didn't work, the 32bit > version was run a wrapper and was a resource hog from hell. > > Certainly not a pleasant time with flash in that regard :/ > > Will give it a try another time and see if it has improved at all... Well, in Eduardo's defense, he did say "as stable as the 32-bit version", but nowhere did he say that it is stable! ;-) Kumar -- If loving linux is wrong, I dont wanna be right. -- Topic for #LinuxGER -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100217132050.GM7089(a)146653177.ece.utexas.edu |