From: Jochen Schulz on
Lisi:
> On Wednesday 17 February 2010 11:59:05 Camaleón wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:47:44 +0000, Lisi wrote:
>>>
>>> Running Debian Lenny:
>>> lisi(a)Tux:~$ uname -a
>>> Linux Tux 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686
>>> GNU/Linux lisi(a)Tux:~$
>>
>> Debian uses "i386" for naming the whole 32 bits architecture:
>> …
>
> I understand what you are saying, and would not argue with it. - but why then
> does my system announce itself as i686??

You asked which architecture your kernel was compiled for. Camaleón was
talking about distribution specific names for architectures. These two
aren't necessarily the same. (Even to the extent that you can run Debian
"i386" on an AMD64 kernel…)

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From: Camaleón on
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:07:50 +0000, Lisi wrote:

> On Wednesday 17 February 2010 11:59:05 Camaleón wrote:

>> Debian uses "i386" for naming the whole 32 bits architecture:
>>
>> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#id3060035
>>
>> Other distros use "x86" for i386/i486/i586/i686 packages and "x86_64"
>> for 64 bits. Don't ask me why, I didn't decide those names :-)
>
> I understand what you are saying, and would not argue with it. - but why
> then does my system announce itself as i686??

As Jochen already explained, what you are seeing when issuing "uname -a"
is the version of the compiled kernel you have installed on your system.

So here in Debian, users wanting to use a "32-bits system" (despite the
capabilities of their processor) have several choices:

***
linux-image-2.6-486
→ a 32-bits kernel optimized for i486 processors (quite old micros dated
from 1989-1994)

linux-image-2.6-686
→ a 32-bits kernel optimized for i686 processors (suitable for AMD,
Pentium Pro+)

linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem
→ a 32-bits kernel optimized for i686 processors adding support for +4
GiB RAM( PAE)

linux-image-2.6-openvz-686
→ a 32-bits kernel optimized for i686 processors adding support for
openvz virtualization

linux-image-2.6-vserver-686
→ a 32-bits kernel optimized for i686 processors adding support for
vserver virtualization

linux-image-2.6-vserver-686-bigmem
→ a 32-bits kernel optimized for i686 processors adding support for
vserver virtualization plus +4 GiB RAM (PAE)
***

:-)

Greetings,

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From: Mark on
>
> >On Tue,16.Feb.10, 10:34:09, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > Which architecture should I use for an Intel Atom Processor?
>

[snip]

My gf has a Dell Mini with Intel Atom 1.6 GHz processor. I installed Lenny
32 bit i386 and it works; for some reason Lenny reports dual Atom processors
even though the specs for the machine only list one (??). Regardless, 32
bit i386 worked.

HTH.

Mark
From: Tixy on
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 08:56 -0800, Mark wrote:
<snip>
> for some reason Lenny reports dual Atom processors even though the
> specs for the machine only list one (??).
<snip>

I've noticed that as well. The Atom has Hyper-Threading, so it can run
two threads simultaneously on one core; that could explain it.

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From: Tom H on
>>>> Running Debian Lenny:
>>>> lisi(a)Tux:~$ uname -a
>>>> Linux Tux 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686
>>>> GNU/Linux lisi(a)Tux:~$

>>> Debian uses "i386" for naming the whole 32 bits architecture:

>> I understand what you are saying, and would not argue with it. - but why then
>> does my system announce itself as i686??

> You asked which architecture your kernel was compiled for. Camaleón was
> talking about distribution specific names for architectures. These two
> aren't necessarily the same. (Even to the extent that you can run Debian
> "i386" on an AMD64 kernel…)

To further the (just) above point, here are the latest i386/amd64 deb files:

linux-image-2.6.26-2-486_2.6.26-21lenny3_i386.deb
linux-image-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem_2.6.26-21lenny3_i386.deb
linux-image-2.6.26-2-686_2.6.26-21lenny3_i386.deb
linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64_2.6.26-21lenny3_amd64.deb
linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64_2.6.26-21lenny3_i386.deb


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