Is MBAM is a 100% safe application?
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From: David H. Lipman on 29 Apr 2010 21:22 From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> | "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hotmail.co.ukk> wrote in message | news:etmdnSAlabunKkTWnZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d(a)bt.com... >> OK - I'm convinced at last. :) >> Mbam *is* a 100% safe application! >> ********************************** >> See post number 3 - here:- >> http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=141724&hl=Malwarebytes | It must be a very simple application indeed to be 100% safe. | I would say that the programmers are probably 100% well intentioned. | (is McAfee 100% safe?) I truly think that logic would be above his capability. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: FromTheRafters on 29 Apr 2010 22:09 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:hrdbnh0a6n(a)news6.newsguy.com... > From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> > > | "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hotmail.co.ukk> wrote in message > | news:etmdnSAlabunKkTWnZ2dnUVZ8qednZ2d(a)bt.com... >>> OK - I'm convinced at last. :) > >>> Mbam *is* a 100% safe application! >>> ********************************** > >>> See post number 3 - here:- > >>> http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=141724&hl=Malwarebytes > > | It must be a very simple application indeed to be 100% safe. > > | I would say that the programmers are probably 100% well intentioned. > > | (is McAfee 100% safe?) > > > > I truly think that logic would be above his capability. Maybe, but I believe he is not stupid - just annoying as all hell. :oD Even well intentioned programmers can introduce unsafe implementations of ... say ... decompression algorithms, into a scanner, making zip files or rar files into DoS trojans or worse. It has been seen before as you know. That 100% gets tossed around so much that one would think that it is the "new math" that makes 100 the same as less than 100. :o)
From: ~BD~ on 30 Apr 2010 04:29 FromTheRafters wrote: > > Maybe, but I believe he is not stupid That's good to know! :) > - just annoying as all hell. :oD Name two things which I do which you find annoying - if necessary, please explain why so. I *may* change what I do! Now ....... Here's an item for you to get your teeth into, FTR! It's an extract from a thread I once started here:- http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=50275&st=40 (this is post No 46) ** Performing a standard Disk Format and Reinstall of the Operating System will render common infections incompatible, but not all Rootkits and its accompanying payload of malware..... Rootkits work from outside the Operating System and can hide in Bad Sectors of the Hard Disk thus have places to hide on the Hard Disk that are essentially outside the Operating Systems environment, untouchable by it, yet still at hand. Most wiping, erasing, formatting, and partitioning tools will not overwrite logical bad sectors on the Disk, leaving the Rootkits and their accompanying payload of malware behind and still active. Rootkits in themselves are not a threat.....the danger is that Rootkits have the invincible power of Stealth.....Malicious Programmers can hide their malware safely inside the protection of the Rootkit. Rootkits reside in the Root of things, thus the name 'Root' that service as an protective container for the accompanying payload of malware, or on the bright side, the accompanying payload of Software Code with productive, safe intentions, together they are a 'KIT'.....thus the name 'ROOTKIT'.....and Rootkits are not a joke. Once the Computer is compromised by an Rootkit with its accompanying payload of malware, all files in the System can not be trusted and are likely infected..... this includes all the System files, Software, backups, removable disks, and restore points..... Rootkits can not only hide themselves in Bad Sectors of Hard Disks, they can also hide themselves in the Boot Sectors of Hard Disks, CD/DVD, and Floppy Disks..... Rootkits can also hide in the Firmware of Hardware Components, in the BIOS, Motherboard, Video-card EEPROM or Alternate Data Streams..... Rootkits hide their processes, files, and folders by using sophisticated hooking and filtering techniques. As a result, traditional methods of viewing the system state typically return no indication of foul play.....the Rootkit makes sure of that. When an Rootkit is cloaked, system utilities such as Task Manager, Regedit, will not be able to expose the processes and Registry data that should betray the presence of the Rootkit. The lurking Rootkit files will not be viewable in Windows Explorer or even via the command line.....The Rootkit needs to be uncloaked, in return the Malware Components it was hiding become uncloaked as well..... Removing an Rootkit is an two step process: 1). Uncloaking and removing the Rootkit.....this step involves using special Software tools that can find the Rootkit and remove it. 2). Removing the malware payload associated with the Rootkit.....this step normally uses conventional security programs such as Anti-Virus, Anti-Trojan, and Anti-Spyware scanners. This step may also involve manual deletion of some stubborn Rootkit components. Some helpful tools to help detect and remove Rootkits are: RootkitRevealer by Microsoft, Rootkit_Detective by McAfee, BlackLight by F-Secure, UnHackMe by Greatis, AVG Anti-rootkit by Grisoft to name a few..... -drdos ************* I'd be most interested to discuss these comments of drdos further - you will note that the thread was closed by the moderator shortly after we reached this stage! In particular, do you agree that "Rootkits can also hide in the Firmware of Hardware Components, in the BIOS, Motherboard, Video-card EEPROM or Alternate Data Streams....." ? Like Dustin Cook, I've always been a 'detail' person too! <vbg> -- Dave
From: David H. Lipman on 30 Apr 2010 06:16 From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> FUD post ! There is NO malware that infects are resides within the; BIOS, Motherboard or Video-card EEPROM. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
From: David H. Lipman on 30 Apr 2010 06:17
From: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> | From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> | FUD post ! | There is NO malware that infects are resides within the; BIOS, Motherboard or | Video-card | EEPROM. That should have been... "...that infects or resides within..." -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp |