From: FromTheRafters on
"~BD~" <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Isn't Usenet great? :)

Yes! :oD

> If folk choose not to substantiate their standing in the real world
> then AFAIC they are simply fantasy figures of the Internet.
>
> Remember this thread, FTR
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/24146319906307ac/d42636edf3d1e14b?hl=en&q=The+newbies+dilema&lnk=ol&
>
> Not much has changed!

Did you really expect it to?


From: ~BD~ on
David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "~BD~"<BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk>
>
> | FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "~BD~"<BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:RbSdnY3dLah7CUfWnZ2dnUVZ8nSdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Maybe, but I believe he is not stupid
>
>>>> That's good to know! :)
>
>>>>> - just annoying as all hell. :oD
>
>>>> Name two things which I do which you find annoying - if necessary,
>>>> please explain why so. I *may* change what I do!
>
> | Let's deal with this part of your response first.
>
>>> 1) Introducing your personal vendetta against PF whenever it suits you.
>
> | I have no personal vendetta against anyone.
>
> Person -- Robear Dyer
> Place -- aumha.net and its members like Robera and Randy.
>


May I refer you to this post?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.scorched-earth/msg/ca3b5b6709131018?hl=en

Where I said .......

"My use of Norton AV is what prompted my exclusion from Aumha, which as
you well know, is the *real* 'home' of PA Bear (aka Robear Dyer). I
found that 'interesting', especially as subsequently he lied saying
that I had been banned by an ISP, when this is false) and then he
refuses to communicate further. Such behaviour is irrational!"

That is the truth as far as I am aware. If this is disputed, let us
discuss further. I have *never* been banned by /any/ ISP - *ever*!

BD

From: Dustin Cook on
~BD~ <BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in
news:zM-dnaWNkNOrI0HWnZ2dnUVZ8jidnZ2d(a)bt.com:

> David H. Lipman wrote:
>> From: "~BD~"<BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk>
>>
>> | FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> "~BD~"<BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:RbSdnY3dLah7CUfWnZ2dnUVZ8nSdnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>> FromTheRafters wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>> Maybe, but I believe he is not stupid
>>
>>>>> That's good to know! :)
>>
>>>>>> - just annoying as all hell. :oD
>>
>>>>> Name two things which I do which you find annoying - if necessary,
>>>>> please explain why so. I *may* change what I do!
>>
>> | Let's deal with this part of your response first.
>>
>>>> 1) Introducing your personal vendetta against PF whenever it suits
>>>> you.
>>
>> | I have no personal vendetta against anyone.
>>
>> Person -- Robear Dyer
>> Place -- aumha.net and its members like Robera and Randy.
>>
>
>
> May I refer you to this post?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.scorched-earth/msg/ca3b5b67
> 09131018?hl=en
>
> Where I said .......
>
> "My use of Norton AV is what prompted my exclusion from Aumha, which
> as you well know, is the *real* 'home' of PA Bear (aka Robear Dyer). I
> found that 'interesting', especially as subsequently he lied saying
> that I had been banned by an ISP, when this is false) and then he
> refuses to communicate further. Such behaviour is irrational!"
>
> That is the truth as far as I am aware. If this is disputed, let us
> discuss further. I have *never* been banned by /any/ ISP - *ever*!

Wouldn't this be more appropriate in another newsgroup? This one, and the
ones I see you've set as followup don't really apply...


--
"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior

From: ~BD~ on
FromTheRafters wrote:
> "~BD~"<BoaterDave(a)hot.mail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:-OudnesECt2h0UHWnZ2dnUVZ8oidnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>
>> Isn't Usenet great? :)
>
> Yes! :oD
>
>> If folk choose not to substantiate their standing in the real world
>> then AFAIC they are simply fantasy figures of the Internet.
>>
>> Remember this thread, FTR
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.security.virus/browse_thread/thread/24146319906307ac/d42636edf3d1e14b?hl=en&q=The+newbies+dilema&lnk=ol&
>>
>> Not much has changed!
>
> Did you really expect it to?
>
>

No. I'd hoped that Dustin might re-read the thread if it came to his
attention again and he wasn't too busy! ;-)

Trolli is still monitoring posts being made on Scorched-Earth.

*Why*?

Proof positive?

Yup! (anyone know why MISMATCH appears in the first line of 'Path'?

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From: Ant on
"~BD~" wrote:
> Tell me, then, about the expertise and 'qualifications' of Mr
> Lipman. I suspect that he's a 'professional' but seems reluctant to say
> so. You talk as if you *know* him!

How do you get the impression I know him from my previous post when I
never mentioned or referred to him?

As it happens, both he and I are long-time contributors to acv and
acav, he offers advice to help people clean their machines and
provides a useful tool to do that in the form of Multi-AV. So yes,
I know him on usenet and from a private forum of researchers and
anti-malware people and have corresponded with him in email. I don't
know what he does for a living or what qualifications he has and
neither do I care because the advice he gives is sound. All
indications are that he has a wide knowledge of computer security,
viruses and other malware.

As for my expertise, I've previously mentioned I'm a long-time
programmer with a particular interest in reverse engineering
malicious code. I know about the capabilities of most currently
circulating malware and popular exploits as you may have noticed from
other posts I've made to these groups. Of course, in this field it's
a constant learning experience as computer systems and software evolve
and the bay guys try out new methods.

I tend not to dispense advice about security or AV software because
that's not my area of interest or expertise and I don't use such
applications. If I have to clean infected systems I use my low-level
system knowledge and basic or specialist tools.