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From: Dorian Gray on 10 Apr 2010 11:35 In article <1jgq5yk.saen2ic8eetcN%{$PW$}@womar.co.uk>, {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote: > The > article actually seems to say that JANET is discontinuing it's feed > which is where most/all Uni's would take their feed from. Right, as I posted. The subject gives it away... I didn't see the other two follow-ups before you posted, those two are in my killfile (and their follow-ups didn't give me any reason to change that ;). But I find it amazing that anyone would question the posting here of *big* news that the Usenet News feed is being turned off to most/all UK Universities (including cam.ac.uk). I see a lot of threads about various Usenet News servers and their reliability/cost/features/groups, and the headers they support, and very little if any of that has nothing to do with Macs, yet are never marked OT. It seems to be consensus that such discussions are on-topic here.
From: Chris Ridd on 10 Apr 2010 12:11 On 2010-04-10 11:41:20 +0100, James Jolley said: > On 2010-04-10 08:53:49 +0100, {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) said: > >> James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2010-04-09 19:34:55 +0100, >>> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) said: >>>> >>>> And you should post this, why? >>> >>> Because it's hardly relevant to most people is it? Him in his little >>> backwater uni? >> >> I don't think that's a valid reason against posting here, particularly >> when this group is dedicated to a minority computing platform. The >> article actually seems to say that JANET is discontinuing it's feed >> which is where most/all Uni's would take their feed from. > > Fair enough. Usenet isn't an essential service any longer, much as we'd > like to hope it was. I didn't expect that the servers for it would be > all that hard to maintain though. News servers use a large amount of disk space. Actually they might not compared with modern disk sizes, but it is significantly more than zero. -- Chris
From: James Jolley on 10 Apr 2010 12:14 On 2010-04-10 17:11:11 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> said: > On 2010-04-10 11:41:20 +0100, James Jolley said: > >> On 2010-04-10 08:53:49 +0100, {$PW$}@womar.co.uk (Paul Womar) said: >> >>> James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2010-04-09 19:34:55 +0100, >>>> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) said: >>>>> >>>>> And you should post this, why? >>>> >>>> Because it's hardly relevant to most people is it? Him in his little >>>> backwater uni? >>> >>> I don't think that's a valid reason against posting here, particularly >>> when this group is dedicated to a minority computing platform. The >>> article actually seems to say that JANET is discontinuing it's feed >>> which is where most/all Uni's would take their feed from. >> >> Fair enough. Usenet isn't an essential service any longer, much as we'd >> like to hope it was. I didn't expect that the servers for it would be >> all that hard to maintain though. > > News servers use a large amount of disk space. Actually they might not > compared with modern disk sizes, but it is significantly more than zero. Again, fair. You keep hearing disk space is cheap so bloody often you start to equate it to any disk activity at all. Shouldn't I know, but there we go. Best -James-
From: Chris Ridd on 10 Apr 2010 12:24 On 2010-04-10 17:14:23 +0100, James Jolley said: > On 2010-04-10 17:11:11 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> said: > >> News servers use a large amount of disk space. Actually they might not >> compared with modern disk sizes, but it is significantly more than zero. > > Again, fair. You keep hearing disk space is cheap so bloody often you > start to equate it to any disk activity at all. Shouldn't I know, but > there we go. When I last (and first) ran a news server, I think it used a "massive" 2GB disk for its spool. Those were the days! -- Chris
From: Jim on 10 Apr 2010 12:41
James Jolley <jrjolley(a)me.com> wrote: > > News servers use a large amount of disk space. Actually they might not > > compared with modern disk sizes, but it is significantly more than zero. > > Again, fair. You keep hearing disk space is cheap so bloody often you > start to equate it to any disk activity at all. Shouldn't I know, but > there we go. Just imagine subscribing to _every_ group there is. Even the ones to do with knitting and making your own crisps. Then have an article expiry time of, say, a month. It adds up. It adds up a *lot*. And that's before you factor in binary groups. Jim -- "Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/ |