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From: |||newspam||| on 10 Nov 2006 09:33 Ben Newsam wrote: > On Thu, 09 Nov 06 13:23:18 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >In article <4550A28F.B40C659F(a)hotmail.com>, > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >>> In addition, people burn the wood that is laced with arsenic. BTW I rather like the smell of woodsmoke from burning good dry forest logs. They take a couple of years stacked out of the rain to dry out properly in our neck of the woods. And hitech compressed pellet waste wood burners are making a come-back in the green energy fraternity. Apart from high initial hardware costs the fuel seems cheap (cf oil or coal). > >>What kind of wood is laced with arsenic ? > > > >Any wood you want to prevent termintes from eating. > > That would explain it. We don't get termites here. Actually we do have termites in the UK. Although only in a very restricted zone (~2 houses) in N Devon and every possible attempt is being made to annihilate them. Including nasty pesticides not normally licenced for use in the UK. AFAIK So far without success. As the winters get milder they will be potentially more of a problem if they ever manage to spread. http://www.pwbelg.clara.net/termites/index.html CCA was used to make wood rot proof in the past here although it is now withdrawn. There is plenty of CCA pressure treated scrap wood about. Few people in the UK have open fires any more so it is much less likely to be used as firewood. Regards, Martin Brown
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Nov 2006 09:30 In article <45536300.3576E4F4(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >To be fair, Dell's 22 years old. >> >> >> >> I have other examples in another post. From Keith's and my POV, >> >> 22 years in the computing biz is young, very young. >> > >> >And I could say it's very old. >> > >> >How many dedicated DSP processors existed 22 yrs ago for example ? >> >> Your definition of DSP, please. > >Digital Signal Processor. > >Think especially of devices with hardwired fast very wide multiply accumulate >function. [emoticon's eye go Xeyed] I don't know hardware terms. Are you talking about fast ACs? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Nov 2006 09:33 In article <7WG4h.11576$B31.1027(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eivcdg$8qk_018(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <toednYmJ4tKD0c_YnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eiskun$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <eiq575$qnu$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>In article <eiprjo$8ss_003(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>In article <einool$7gj$10(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>>>In article <eikp37$8qk_001(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Neither will work efficiently nor deliver service on demand. You >>>>>>>>have to plan how to be sick or have somebody do it for you. That >>>>>>>>is why people who are very ill have to have a patient advocate. >>>>>>>>These were not needed before this medical insurance business >>>>>>>>became a right instead of a benefit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Canada's system does not work for a certain class of services. >>>>>>>>People who need those services were able to come to the US and >>>>>>>>get them in a timely manner. When the US converts to a >>>>>>>>single payer system, like Canada, the Canadians and the USians >>>>>>>>who need these services will have to go to another country >>>>>>>>whose medical infrastructure will provide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical >>>>>>>care. >>>>>>>Care to explain why? >>>>>> >>>>>>Because our medical system is changing to a national health run >>>>>>by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, >>>>>>monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure >>>>>>and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. >>>>> >>>>>What? The people who fill out paperwork at insurance companies? No >>>>>way. >>>>>Unions have few such clerical workers as members. >>>> >>>> Workers are those who do the actual delivery of service...the ones >>>> that count. >>> >>>So the clerical workers aren't workers then? Are you posting this from >>>1886? >> >> I think you are doing this misreading on purpose. If so, why do you >> do so? > >I think you are saying that about him to negate the good point he makes. If >so, why do you do so? Oh, never mind. > >>>> Especially the second reason. That is a harbinger of what will >>>> happen if the system becomes a national entity run by the >>>> government bureaucracies. >>> >>>Really? How do you work that out? >> >> Experience. > > >You've experienced a conversion to national health care? Do tell. It's simply not a single-payer system ...yet. > >Those on this group who *actually* have experienced such a change, are quite >happy with it. Don't you think you might just want to listen to them >sometime, instead of entering the discussion with your own preconceived >notion of what will and won't work, and refusing to accept data to the >contrary? Since my information of doesn't work came from people who did experience such a system, I don't I should refuse that data. Since my experiences were with systems that didn't work, I'm not going to dump that data. You hand me some comment you got from some web site, and expect do dump actual experience in favor of your offishal data? /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Nov 2006 09:37 In article <eivs0e$vor$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <eivcit$8qk_019(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <X8s4h.10931$r12.9903(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eiskun$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <eiq575$qnu$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>In article <eiprjo$8ss_003(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>In article <einool$7gj$10(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>>>In article <eikp37$8qk_001(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Neither will work efficiently nor deliver service on demand. You >>>>>>>>have to plan how to be sick or have somebody do it for you. That >>>>>>>>is why people who are very ill have to have a patient advocate. >>>>>>>>These were not needed before this medical insurance business >>>>>>>>became a right instead of a benefit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Canada's system does not work for a certain class of services. >>>>>>>>People who need those services were able to come to the US and >>>>>>>>get them in a timely manner. When the US converts to a >>>>>>>>single payer system, like Canada, the Canadians and the USians >>>>>>>>who need these services will have to go to another country >>>>>>>>whose medical infrastructure will provide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical >>>>>>>care. >>>>>>>Care to explain why? >>>>>> >>>>>>Because our medical system is changing to a national health run >>>>>>by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, >>>>>>monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure >>>>>>and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. >>>>> >>>>>What? The people who fill out paperwork at insurance companies? No way. >>>>>Unions have few such clerical workers as members. >>>> >>>> Workers are those who do the actual delivery of service...the ones >>>> that count. >>>>> >>>>>>All access to medical help is done through insurance company >>>>>>doors. >>>>> >>>>>These people are going to India because (1) they don't have insurance and >>>>>American medicine costs too much, or (2) their insurance won't cover what >>>> they >>>>>need to have done. >>>> >>>> Especially the second reason. That is a harbinger of what will >>>> happen if the system becomes a national entity run by the >>>> government bureaucracies. The medical field is unique in that >>>> all of its business is personal. Managing what has to be >>>> small business relationships and models with a corporate umbrella >>>> can't work well. >>> >>>And the first reason is going to become ubiquitous as industry is less and >>>less willing to pay for the health care of its employees. >> >>Industry can't afford it. > >Which is why the cost should be spread over the entire population, as it is >done in Europe and Canada. Spread the disease so everybody has to have to it. Industry cannot afford it because it is insurance and the whole medical delivery system is getting run by insurance rather than need. > >>Medical insurance used to be a benefit to >>attract workers. Our legistlature now has medical insurance on >>its slate to consider as a right to be included in the state's >>consititution. > >What good are the other rights if you're dead? Reread the sentence. They are only talking about insurance being a right, not getting medical care. There is a difference. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 10 Nov 2006 09:39
In article <CXG4h.11577$B31.9145(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:eivcit$8qk_019(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <X8s4h.10931$r12.9903(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eiskun$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <eiq575$qnu$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>In article <eiprjo$8ss_003(a)s900.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>In article <einool$7gj$10(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >>>>>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>>>>>>In article <eikp37$8qk_001(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>In article <QqSdnTiCZpUVWtHYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Neither will work efficiently nor deliver service on demand. You >>>>>>>>have to plan how to be sick or have somebody do it for you. That >>>>>>>>is why people who are very ill have to have a patient advocate. >>>>>>>>These were not needed before this medical insurance business >>>>>>>>became a right instead of a benefit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Canada's system does not work for a certain class of services. >>>>>>>>People who need those services were able to come to the US and >>>>>>>>get them in a timely manner. When the US converts to a >>>>>>>>single payer system, like Canada, the Canadians and the USians >>>>>>>>who need these services will have to go to another country >>>>>>>>whose medical infrastructure will provide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Right now, a number of Americans are going to ... India for medical >>>>>>>care. >>>>>>>Care to explain why? >>>>>> >>>>>>Because our medical system is changing to a national health run >>>>>>by many chiefs. Since all that paper pushing has to be funded, >>>>>>monies are going to bureaucracies rather than infrastructure >>>>>>and labor. The workers are now union; so that adds to labor costs. >>>>> >>>>>What? The people who fill out paperwork at insurance companies? No >>>>>way. >>>>>Unions have few such clerical workers as members. >>>> >>>> Workers are those who do the actual delivery of service...the ones >>>> that count. >>>>> >>>>>>All access to medical help is done through insurance company >>>>>>doors. >>>>> >>>>>These people are going to India because (1) they don't have insurance >>>>>and >>>>>American medicine costs too much, or (2) their insurance won't cover >>>>>what >>>> they >>>>>need to have done. >>>> >>>> Especially the second reason. That is a harbinger of what will >>>> happen if the system becomes a national entity run by the >>>> government bureaucracies. The medical field is unique in that >>>> all of its business is personal. Managing what has to be >>>> small business relationships and models with a corporate umbrella >>>> can't work well. >>> >>>And the first reason is going to become ubiquitous as industry is less and >>>less willing to pay for the health care of its employees. >> >> Industry can't afford it. > >Yes, you are correct. It doesn't change the fact that the number of people >actually having effective health insurance under the current system in this >country is rapidly decreasing toward a limit of zero. It is decreasing towards zero as conversion to a few payers increases. What do you think will happen when the few payers become one? /BAH |