From: jmfbahciv on
In article <Wf15h.3585$IR4.3293(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ej234l$8qk_015(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>
>> The same thing happened to medical pots of money contributed
>> by employees and their employers. The pool of monies got transformed
>> to insurance companies.
>
>
>Now you're catching on. Private insurance companies have profit motive.
>Government bodies that provide for health care don't.

Right. There is no competition and no check on 100% corruption.
Most monies will go to patronage, outright stealing and administration
costs. None will end up buying the real service.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <u-2dnbLwyb97osjYnZ2dnUVZ8sOdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
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>"Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:8bcal29ia4lnc75lbuo3p1b5l83etn3ive(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:53:26 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ej234l$8qk_015(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>>>
>>>> The same thing happened to medical pots of money contributed
>>>> by employees and their employers. The pool of monies got transformed
>>>> to insurance companies.
>>>
>>>Now you're catching on. Private insurance companies have profit motive.
>>>Government bodies that provide for health care don't.
>>
>> I have often wondered, re insurance, if I wouldn't get a better deal
>> by going down the local betting shop. In other words, what odds might
>> I get on betting that my house will get burgled in the next year?
>
>Interesting one - might be worth trying!
>
>Lots of insurance on electrical goods is madness, and you tend to expect
>that. Cat insurance is also insane - some policies ask for in the region of
>?10 pcm per cat and wont pay for the first ?50. If you take the money and
>put it in a savings account you get the best of both worlds, as long as you
>have the emergency fund for when it needs a ?500 operation...
>
>
You would spend $500 on a cat operation? ($ is merely used to indicate
money and not type of currency).

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <X_idnZIHpJT6VcnYRVnyvg(a)pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
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><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ej234l$8qk_015(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <455368BB.5A9A6A6C(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>And the first reason is going to become ubiquitous as industry is less
>> and
>>>> >>less willing to pay for the health care of its employees.
>>>> >
>>>> > Industry can't afford it.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you are correct. It doesn't change the fact that the number of
>> people
>>>> actually having effective health insurance under the current system in
>>>> this
>>>> country is rapidly decreasing toward a limit of zero.
>>>
>>>Something similar is happening here wrt pensions too.
>>>
>>>I don't think private companies are up to the task of providing critical
>>>services like this very well.
>>
>> Ours are, too. That's because the pensions are transforming
>> from a collected pot of money by the employees into an insurance
>> policy. It's no longer real money.
>>
>> The same thing happened to medical pots of money contributed
>> by employees and their employers. The pool of monies got transformed
>> to insurance companies.
>
>Which is why a state run system is "better." Part of the problem in the UK
>is our pensions got "privatised" and the providers have to turn a profit.

There is still competition at the level of insurance companies.
Remove that and available medical care will diminish. None of
those service providers are going to work at minimum wage.

/BAH

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45536686.8244713C(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >> hill(a)rowland.org wrote:
>> >> >Winfield Hill wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 4200 postings and still going strong. Amazing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Wow, now 7200 posts and still going strong. And most
>> >> > of the posts were under the original subject title. This
>> >> > must be some kind of a record.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think so.
>> >>
>> >> >Certainly it's a stress
>> >> > test for the Google Groups web-page display code, etc.
>> >>
>> >> KEWL!!!! Has there been any glitches?
>> >
>> >None I'm aware of.
>> >
>> >7360 posts and counting.
>>
>> You can't know the correct count. If their counting mechanisms are
>> wrong or there's an exclusion to the count, you can't tell if
>> there's a mistake. This is a problem I've been spending time
>> thinking about. How do you detect something is missing if
>> you don't see it and haven't been told it exists? If I solve
>> this one, the comm world will give me a gold star.
>
>Since there'e no simple solution I don't waste time worrying about it.

We were paid to solve non-simple solutions.


>
>It obviously refers to the number of posts on Google's own servers. 7556
right
>now.

I realize that. I was just curious if there had been any glitches
with their software.

/BAH
From: John Fields on
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:22:21 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
>news:FuudnUJttc5DecnYRVnyiA(a)pipex.net...
>>
>> "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
>> news:1ko8l25obt73evog3kn6g81jeimhc27str(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>>>When Saddam was "arrested," why did the occupation forces remain?
>>>
>>> ---
>>> 1. To make sure the country wouldn't fall into worse hands than
>>> Saddam Hussein's.
>>
>> Interesting argument. I assume from this that self determination is not an
>> option in your opinion.
>
>In fact, many Iraqis seem to think it *did* fall into worse hands than
>Saddam Husseins....

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I'm sure.
---

>>> 2. To rebuild the country.
>>
>> Iran has made the same claims. Why does the US have more right to do this
>> than the Iranians?
>>
>>> 3. To help give the folks there a chance to govern themselves.
>>
>> You need to leave to do that. When a country is occupied it is not
>> governing itself. What you may mean here is to give the folks the chance
>> to set up an acceptable government.
>
>I wonder if he can honestly not see the hypocrisy in 3.

---
Sounds to me like you might have a little voluntary reading
comprehension problem.


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JF