From: jmfbahciv on 11 Nov 2006 08:36 In article <3059l2d061q8ah6vr9oema7e1f5ott0efj(a)4ax.com>, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Fri, 10 Nov 06 12:59:20 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <45535C91.5F6C3E61(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >unsettled wrote: >>>> >> Lloyd Parker wrote: >>>> >> > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> > Yeah, like a few million more Kurds is just what Turkey needs. >>>> >> >>>> >> I don't know what Turkey will do. I am the messenger. >>>> > >>>> >Turkey will do what they're told to do or lose out big time. >>>> >>>> Oh, the irony. >>> >>>The EU has a very big carrot and a very big stick. >> >>The carrot has worms and the stick has termites. >>That makes them useless to be used for their original purpose. >> >>Dang! I tied a knot in this thread :-))). >> >>/BAH > >Turkey can just make promises, join the EU, then revert to whatever >behavior it really likes. Like my brit friends say, CE means Can't >Enforce. Of all the Muslim countries I visited, Turkey was the only one where all their people were working, especially their own agriculture. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Nov 2006 08:42 In article <Pwe5h.8473$9v5.327(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >news:3070a$45554ce3$4fe71df$2923(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> Ben Newsam wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:02:02 -0600, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> >>> wrote: >> >>>>He also doesn't seem to mind a large part of that going to >>>>pay medical care for random strangers including those who >>>>are getting medical care for their ongoing smoking and drug >>>>addiction. >> >>> Do you seriously believe that your insurance premiums are used only to >>> fund *your* medical needs? >> >> Since you asked. >> >> My insurance premiums are insufficient to cover my >> medical expenses. I am at a slight loss in the >> medicine coverage if I use Canadian pricing as >> the basis, but way ahead if I use USA prices. I >> pay for the coverage because it is quite likely >> I'll need more as I age and there's a penalty if >> one doesn't sign on when it becomes available to >> them. >> >> Now reread what I wrote and take the narrow meaning: >> "He (add emphasis to that word) also doesn't seem >> to mind...." >> >> For the most part private US insurance severely >> limits benefits available for addictions and mental >> health issues. I can pretty much guarantee that we >> won't do lung translants for folks still smoking. > >A lung transplant would be cheap compared to what they *do* do for smokers >(ex *and* current). Lifelon treatments for emphysema. Years and years of >cancer treatments, including expensive chemo and radiation treatments, which >morph into more and more expensive as the patient very slowly dies. >Expensive treatments for the heart disease caused by smoking, including >bypass surgery, heart transplants, and other forms of open-heart surgery. Those services were already paid for by the tax. In Mass., all that lovely money, not only has been spent twice, it's been borrowed against (I think) two times. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Nov 2006 08:43 In article <ej28ps$j3j$3(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <ej211j$8qk_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>In article <455485EB.84F083F4(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >>> >>>Why ? >> >>It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>It eliminates wage competition. People's real productivity is >>no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. > >By that argument, you support slavery. I support the exact opposite. The scenario above promotes it.
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Nov 2006 08:44 In article <455493E7.A39EFCD9(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >> > >> >Why ? >> >> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >> It eliminates wage competition. People's real productivity is >> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >> >> >> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >> > >> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >> >> $10k/year? Yes. > >You wouldn't get far on ?5263 over here for sure. I didn't say it was easy and one also has to give up a lot of middle class "attitudes" ;-). /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 11 Nov 2006 08:47
In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>> It eliminates wage competition. > >Only at the bottom end. Everyone else still competes. > > >>> People's real productivity is >>> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. > >I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any time >at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. > > >>> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>> > >>> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >>> >>> $10k/year? Yes. > >That's not living. You don't that. It is only your opinion that's not living. People do live on that kind of cash flow. <snip> /BAH |