From: Eeyore on 12 Nov 2006 18:35 unsettled wrote: > T Wake wrote: > > > It wont be relevant. When I was 18 you could buy a house outright for ?20k. > > Now you need ten times that amount. > > I bought a bank reposessed house two years ago for > $15,500. It is an investment house. It needed $1000 > in repairs to make it habitable, and that was because > the pipes had frozen and burst. > > I can buy similar houses today at a similar price. In a location where jobs are plentiful at a wage that would meet the repayments and keep a family ? Graham
From: lucasea on 12 Nov 2006 18:35 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:998ff$4557aace$4fe7025$26268(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> unsettled wrote: >> >>>Take the model of hunter-gatherer tribes. They wouldn't >>>begin to understand a value system that thought they are >>>just "existing." Still the totality of their posessions >>>was limited to what they could carry. >> >> So? If they had to move, they didn't have to worry about what to >> leave behind. > > Yes, so very little which took significant investment in > time and energy, that means wealth in posessions, was > accumulated. Only such things as they could carry. And exactly how are these "hunter-gatherer" societies relevant to modern Western civilization, which is where the people making minimum wage are actually living? >> As long as they could eat, clothe themselves and keep a >> roof over their heads, they had what mattered to them. > > So the definition of "living" as oposed to "surviving" which > spawned this bit of discussion was clearly invalid As is this discussion, since the living/surviving distinction was made on the basis of someone living in and part of modern civilization, not some disconnected hunter-gatherer society. > Do you realize how insane the discussions by Lucas, Eeyore, > Newsam, and Wake are after this point (your posting) in > time? They're feeding off one another now. I think if > any opposition to their philosophy stops right here they > are quite capable of carrying on congratulating one another > for another 10K posts. Much like you and Terrell, in this and previous posts? Eric Lucas >
From: lucasea on 12 Nov 2006 18:40 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4557AFAF.D655185B(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> T Wake wrote: >> >> > It wont be relevant. When I was 18 you could buy a house outright for >> > ?20k. >> > Now you need ten times that amount. >> >> I bought a bank reposessed house two years ago for >> $15,500. Probably repossessed from someone making minimum wage.... Congratulations, you have taken over the slum-house of someone too poor to afford any house and heat. >>It is an investment house. It needed $1000 >> in repairs to make it habitable, Barely. Does it pass code? Have you gotten a Ceritificate of Occupancy? If not, it's *not* habitable. >> and that was because >> the pipes had frozen and burst. >> >> I can buy similar houses today at a similar price. > > In a location where jobs are plentiful at a wage that would meet the > repayments > and keep a family ? This house was owned by someone who couldn't afford the mortgage, and couldn't afford to heat it to a temperature above 32 F. What do you think> Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 12 Nov 2006 18:41 > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:998ff$4557aace$4fe7025$26268(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >> >> I think if >> any opposition to their philosophy stops right here Why don't you just give that little experiment a try? Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 12 Nov 2006 18:44
lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > > > >> Oh, and by the way, Canada spans just as much area as the US. > > > > With a smaller population. > > ...90% of which is amassed within 100 miles of the US border, ready to > attack us. Aaaiieieiei! Canada wants to destroy western civilization! > They want to destroy all baseball card trade! They only hate us for our > football! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! > > (You really do need to rent a copy of "Canadian Bacon", if you can find it. > It's very good satire. You would like the grafitti scene in Quebec. As an > educated John Fields would put it, "Mange mes shorts!") LOL ! Graham |