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From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 06:57 In article <6-CdnUDZfv7m1crYRVnyiw(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ej73hc$8qk_003(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <4556023D.65907648(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> What is really happening >>>> is that people, who do not have access to a GP, go to the >>>> most expensive health care facility for treatment. >>> >>>Why would they do that ? >> >> To get drugs to fix their problem. Doctors don't take >> new patients who are already sick even if one has >> medical insurance. For a long time, the doctors around >> wouldn't take new patients who were on Medicare. I don't if >> that has changed. > >You see, a national health care system would cure this problem. No, it would not. A single-payer system would make the problem so big it could never be fixed. > >You don't really explain why someone would go to a facility which charged >more than they could afford though. To get the treatment they need in a reasonable time frame. It is the same reason, people who live in countries with "free" health care go to other countries who take cash for treatments. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 07:00 In article <45574E64.63A53423(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> What is really happening >> >> is that people, who do not have access to a GP, go to the >> >> most expensive health care facility for treatment. >> > >> >Why would they do that ? >> >> To get drugs to fix their problem. > >Why does that involve going to an expensive doctor ? Only the cheapest services are covered by a single payer system. By defintion, going outside of the system is going to an expensive doctor. > > >> Doctors don't take >> new patients who are already sick even if one has >> medical insurance. For a long time, the doctors around >> wouldn't take new patients who were on Medicare. I don't if >> that has changed. > >You see an 'NHS' would fix that. > Hon, Medicare is the US' NHS; it just doesn't apply to all citizens... yet. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 07:02 In article <laL5h.3504$Sw1.1347(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ej73hc$8qk_003(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <4556023D.65907648(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> What is really happening >>>> is that people, who do not have access to a GP, go to the >>>> most expensive health care facility for treatment. >>> >>>Why would they do that ? >> >> To get drugs to fix their problem. Doctors don't take >> new patients who are already sick even if one has >> medical insurance. > >Where did you get that loony idea? > Personal experience. I know that doesn't matter to you. I need a web site that proves my experience never happened before you'll give any credence to what I write. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 07:04 In article <45574ED9.32805BEE(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> >> You are parroting politicians again. What is really happening >> >> is that people, who do not have access to a GP, go to the >> >> most expensive health care facility for treatment. >> >> Now instead of concentrating on how they can't afford the most >> >> expensive service, why not concentrate on why they cannot get >> >> access to the usual general practioner's services. That is >> >> the problem. And it has become exasperated by everything being >> >> based on whether you have insurance or not. >> > >> >You present a strong case for the introduction of a nationalise healthcare >> >system, where all have equal access to healthcare resources based on medical >> >need. >> >> There will not be access. That's what I'm trying to get >> you to understand. You can have oodles of insurance but, >> if you can't get an appt., you might as well use their >> forms for toilet paper. > >So, the insurance based model is broken is it not ? It is now since the HMOs have become the preferred payers. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 07:19
In article <2c2ba$455743de$49ecffa$23510(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <a687d$4557300e$49ecffa$23098(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: <snip> >> You are wrong. Some, if not all, are science and/or engineering >> trained. I'm trying to figure out how thinking that is used to >> working analytically, makes such spectacular thinking leaps. > >We disagree. <gasp>!!!!! What are we supposed to do now? ;-) /BAH |