From: jmfbahciv on
In article <AkL5h.3513$Sw1.3507(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ej754d$8qk_011(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>
>>>I'm not familiar with this 'leach fields' thing.
>>
>> That's another way to get rid of excess water and put
>> it back into your water table.
>>
>> Didn't you ever wonder where your sewer people put all of that
>> water that get flushed and put down the drains of your sinks,
>> baths, and showers?
>
>You really are clueless about how things get done.

No. But one of the posters didn't know. Some of it was
a language barrier and some was never learning how sewer
systems of all kinds work.

> Waste water treatment
>plants do not involve anything like leach beds or dry wells.

My folks use a dry well. I use a dry well and a leech field.

/BAH
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >You see, a national health care system would cure this problem.
>
> No, it would not. A single-payer system would make the problem
> so big it could never be fixed.

That's complete unadulterated rubbish.

Do you think us Brits are lying to you when we say it works well ? It has some
flaws too but doesn't any health system ? Overall it works fabulously.


> >You don't really explain why someone would go to a facility which charged
> >more than they could afford though.
>
> To get the treatment they need in a reasonable time frame. It
> is the same reason, people who live in countries with "free" health
> care go to other countries who take cash for treatments.

You're talking about 'waiting lists' here.

A huge effort has been made to reduce these. I found some data on the NHS that
reported that in all of England and Wales ( Scotland's figures are collected
separately ) there were 8 ppl who'd been waiting over 12 months.

That's 8 ppl out of a population of 60 million ! I think it's a fair assumption
these were non-urgent elective cases.

Graham

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <c2eel2t6422gv5i4coio17g4a84rcah1tb(a)4ax.com>,
Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>>In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>,
>> Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:01:56 +0000, Eeyore
>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My folks,
>>>>> who will not see 80 again, dug a dry well by hand in the
>>>>> summer of 2005.
>>>>
>>>>Dare I ask why ?
>>>
>>>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly
>>>a "soakaway".
>>
>>Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt'
>>tranlate into English? :-)
>>
>>If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field.
>
>Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a
>soakaway rather than anything else.

If the water goes into a hole in ground, it's dry well. If it
goes through a pipe and out into a field, it's a leech field.

>
>You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the
>words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with
>the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground).
>What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for
>holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known
>as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it.

Kewl. I didn't know that. They must get confused when some
Americans visit becaues a lot have a verbal tic that starts
each sentence with a Well, .....

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4557506C.83F6D696(a)earthlink.net>,
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>Ben Newsam wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>> >In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>,
>> > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>

>> >>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly
>> >>a "soakaway".
>> >
>> >Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt'
>> >tranlate into English? :-)
>> >
>> >If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field.
>>
>> Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a
>> soakaway rather than anything else.
>>
>> You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the
>> words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with
>> the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground).
>> What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for
>> holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known
>> as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it.
>
>
> A tap is for threading holes.

What? Explain, please?

/BAH

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What is really happening
> >> >> is that people, who do not have access to a GP, go to the
> >> >> most expensive health care facility for treatment.
> >> >
> >> >Why would they do that ?
> >>
> >> To get drugs to fix their problem.
> >
> >Why does that involve going to an expensive doctor ?
>
> Only the cheapest services are covered by a single payer
> system. By defintion, going outside of the system is
> going to an expensive doctor.

That doesn't occur with an NHS type system. It offers all the treatments
available.


> >> Doctors don't take
> >> new patients who are already sick even if one has
> >> medical insurance. For a long time, the doctors around
> >> wouldn't take new patients who were on Medicare. I don't if
> >> that has changed.
> >
> >You see an 'NHS' would fix that.
>
> Hon, Medicare is the US' NHS; it just doesn't apply to all citizens...
> yet.

Your Medicare is a crippled version of our NHS.

You really haven't got it yet have you ? I guess you just can't believe you can
have universal good quality health care so inexpensively. We've proven it can be
done. Why are you waiting to do the same ?

Graham