From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 07:48 In article <AkL5h.3513$Sw1.3507(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ej754d$8qk_011(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>>I'm not familiar with this 'leach fields' thing. >> >> That's another way to get rid of excess water and put >> it back into your water table. >> >> Didn't you ever wonder where your sewer people put all of that >> water that get flushed and put down the drains of your sinks, >> baths, and showers? > >You really are clueless about how things get done. No. But one of the posters didn't know. Some of it was a language barrier and some was never learning how sewer systems of all kinds work. > Waste water treatment >plants do not involve anything like leach beds or dry wells. My folks use a dry well. I use a dry well and a leech field. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 13 Nov 2006 07:56 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > >You see, a national health care system would cure this problem. > > No, it would not. A single-payer system would make the problem > so big it could never be fixed. That's complete unadulterated rubbish. Do you think us Brits are lying to you when we say it works well ? It has some flaws too but doesn't any health system ? Overall it works fabulously. > >You don't really explain why someone would go to a facility which charged > >more than they could afford though. > > To get the treatment they need in a reasonable time frame. It > is the same reason, people who live in countries with "free" health > care go to other countries who take cash for treatments. You're talking about 'waiting lists' here. A huge effort has been made to reduce these. I found some data on the NHS that reported that in all of England and Wales ( Scotland's figures are collected separately ) there were 8 ppl who'd been waiting over 12 months. That's 8 ppl out of a population of 60 million ! I think it's a fair assumption these were non-urgent elective cases. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 07:51 In article <c2eel2t6422gv5i4coio17g4a84rcah1tb(a)4ax.com>, Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>, >> Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >>>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:01:56 +0000, Eeyore >>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> My folks, >>>>> who will not see 80 again, dug a dry well by hand in the >>>>> summer of 2005. >>>> >>>>Dare I ask why ? >>> >>>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly >>>a "soakaway". >> >>Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt' >>tranlate into English? :-) >> >>If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field. > >Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a >soakaway rather than anything else. If the water goes into a hole in ground, it's dry well. If it goes through a pipe and out into a field, it's a leech field. > >You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the >words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with >the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground). >What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for >holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known >as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it. Kewl. I didn't know that. They must get confused when some Americans visit becaues a lot have a verbal tic that starts each sentence with a Well, ..... /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 13 Nov 2006 07:52 In article <4557506C.83F6D696(a)earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Ben Newsam wrote: >> >> On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>, >> > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: <snip> >> >>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly >> >>a "soakaway". >> > >> >Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt' >> >tranlate into English? :-) >> > >> >If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field. >> >> Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a >> soakaway rather than anything else. >> >> You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the >> words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with >> the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground). >> What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for >> holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known >> as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it. > > > A tap is for threading holes. What? Explain, please? /BAH
From: Eeyore on 13 Nov 2006 07:59
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > > >> >> What is really happening > >> >> is that people, who do not have access to a GP, go to the > >> >> most expensive health care facility for treatment. > >> > > >> >Why would they do that ? > >> > >> To get drugs to fix their problem. > > > >Why does that involve going to an expensive doctor ? > > Only the cheapest services are covered by a single payer > system. By defintion, going outside of the system is > going to an expensive doctor. That doesn't occur with an NHS type system. It offers all the treatments available. > >> Doctors don't take > >> new patients who are already sick even if one has > >> medical insurance. For a long time, the doctors around > >> wouldn't take new patients who were on Medicare. I don't if > >> that has changed. > > > >You see an 'NHS' would fix that. > > Hon, Medicare is the US' NHS; it just doesn't apply to all citizens... > yet. Your Medicare is a crippled version of our NHS. You really haven't got it yet have you ? I guess you just can't believe you can have universal good quality health care so inexpensively. We've proven it can be done. Why are you waiting to do the same ? Graham |