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From: Michael A. Terrell on 13 Nov 2006 09:49 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > In article <AkL5h.3513$Sw1.3507(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >news:ej754d$8qk_011(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >> > >>>I'm not familiar with this 'leach fields' thing. > >> > >> That's another way to get rid of excess water and put > >> it back into your water table. > >> > >> Didn't you ever wonder where your sewer people put all of that > >> water that get flushed and put down the drains of your sinks, > >> baths, and showers? > > > >You really are clueless about how things get done. > > No. But one of the posters didn't know. Some of it was > a language barrier and some was never learning how sewer > systems of all kinds work. > > > Waste water treatment > >plants do not involve anything like leach beds or dry wells. > > My folks use a dry well. I use a dry well and a leech field. > > /BAH Treated waste water is used at the golf courses around here. With all the retirees, there are a lot of golf courses. The bulk waste is dried, and used to make fertilizer. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Michael A. Terrell on 13 Nov 2006 09:51 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > In article <4557506C.83F6D696(a)earthlink.net>, > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >Ben Newsam wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >> >In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>, > >> > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > > <snip> > > >> >>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly > >> >>a "soakaway". > >> > > >> >Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt' > >> >tranlate into English? :-) > >> > > >> >If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field. > >> > >> Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a > >> soakaway rather than anything else. > >> > >> You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the > >> words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with > >> the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground). > >> What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for > >> holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known > >> as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it. > > > > > > A tap is for threading holes. > > What? Explain, please? > > /BAH Taps are for cutting inside threads, while dies cut outside threads. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41451 -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Michael A. Terrell on 13 Nov 2006 10:01 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > In article <45574DB9.317F5AB(a)earthlink.net>, > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >> >> Was it frugal to move the plant bricks? I would think they would > >> >> build their own. I know people moving things like enviromental > >> >> chambers and such but they aren't moving the physical plants. > > > > > > New fire bricks would be used, because they are quite fragile after > >years of use. > > Sure. I was thinking of the walls of the building not the linings > of the furnaces. hmmm....is there an art to making furance brick. > ISTR my Dad changing union rules to fix his furances so they > didn't have to be shut down every few days. The buildings were not brick, they were steel beams and sheet metal. Brick walls hold heat, and a steel mill is hot enough, even when its below zero outside. Some of these ran over 10 years without a shutdown. The design life was expected to be three to six years. The longer they ran without a shutdown, the longer they lasted. If any moisture got into the already stressed bricks after the pit cooled, they would crack when the soaking pit was fired back up. > >> > > >> >They were interested in the heavy machinery. > >> > >> Was that becuase they didn't have the iron ore to make new > >> or they didn't have the machinists to make the gear?...or > >> something else? > >> > >> /BAH > > > > Because the equipment built in the US was build to last forever. > >When Armco (AK Steel) built their new plant in Middletown, Ohio in the > >mid '60s, it was to replace a plant still running the equipment > >installed in the late 1800s. > > > > The new plant was the first computer controlled hot strip in the US, > >built at a cost of 1.2 Billion in '60s dollars. It routinely produced > >well above the output the engineers claimed, and ran years longer > >between relining of the individual soaking pits where the pig iron was > >heated, to prepare it to be rolled into sheets. > > > > Other old industrial equipment is routinely shipped overseas because > >it is know to work reliably, and it is easy to find or fabricate parts. > >There was a huge machine shop in Monroe, ohio that made replacement > >parts for the corrugated box industry, and shipped them worldwide. They > >had the information on almost any machine ever built for that industry, > >so all they needed to know was the model, and which part. > > My brother is going around dismantling environmental chambers that > are getting shipped overseas. > > > > Heavy industry is one place where smaller, lighter and cheaper just > >don't cut it. A Japanese company wanted to buy that 1800s steel making > >equipment but it was scrapped, and reprocessed. > > That's a shame. We are breeding people who have no idea what > it means to make something "right". > > /BAH It was done because that Japanese company was dumping subsidized steel on the US market for less than half the cost to to make it here. If they got the plant, they would have more than doubled the amount they could ship to the US. When that ploy didn't work, they started investing in US steel companies. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: Spehro Pefhany on 13 Nov 2006 10:20 On Mon, 13 Nov 06 12:52:37 GMT, the renowned jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <4557506C.83F6D696(a)earthlink.net>, > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>Ben Newsam wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>, >>> > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > ><snip> > >>> >>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly >>> >>a "soakaway". >>> > >>> >Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt' >>> >tranlate into English? :-) >>> > >>> >If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field. >>> >>> Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a >>> soakaway rather than anything else. >>> >>> You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the >>> words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with >>> the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground). >>> What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for >>> holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known >>> as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it. >> >> >> A tap is for threading holes. > >What? Explain, please? > >/BAH Taps make internal threads, and the female equivalent (dies) make external threads: http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?pagenum=2270 Some low-end ones: http://www.grizzly.com/products/items-list.aspx?key=160120 Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff(a)interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
From: lucasea on 13 Nov 2006 10:31
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej9ipj$8ss_001(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <9offl211jg34dcjnvbklqkeetfaa686dq1(a)4ax.com>, > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >>On Sun, 12 Nov 06 14:00:10 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>In article <455638E2.B76D8B7A(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>I'm wondering if BAH thinks we have our treatment 'rationed'. >>> >>>Would you know if that happened? Since you can't "shop around" >>>and compare, you cannot find out if your treatment is rationed, >>>especially its efficacy. >> >>All health systems of whatever sort are limited by cost. An >>insurance-based scheme will give up long before the NHS, however. > > That is one of the reasons an NHS doesn't work well. It takes > a long time to figure out that something isn't working and then > decades to adjust policies that will fix it. By that argument, we should never change anything or fix anything. You really are terrified of change. Eric Lucas |