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From: Eeyore on 16 Nov 2006 09:11 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > |||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >You could use some good advice on modern PC hardware. Buffered serial > >cards are dirt cheap - and almost obsolete since internal modems work > >so reliably now. > > I don't want an internal modem. I want one with lights that flash > for every I/O. They don't help that much you know. > > In fact as everyone else is on DSL & throwing out > >dialup modems you should be able to cadge one for nothing... > > And they all plug into a USB slot. No they don't. A nice 56k modem will plug into a COM port. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 16 Nov 2006 09:10 In article <fihll2tk6459claohe0hvb2uqr3t3ck5dd(a)4ax.com>, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: >On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:52:26 +0000, Eeyore ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Don Bowey wrote: >> >>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> > T Wake wrote: >>> >> "Don Bowey" <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>> >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> What if the 20 year old person trying to live on >>> >>>> minimum wage needs health care. How can s/he afford it? >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Many doctors will write off the cost of care for people who cannot afford >>> >>> to >>> >>> pay, and start them off with free "samples" of meds. It's rare to hear of >>> >>> someone who is refused the help of a doctor. On the other-hand, a Dr. >>> >>> doesn't have to accept a patient who is abusive or has a known habit of >>> >>> lieing to the Dr. >>> >> >>> >> Fair one, but the system still relies on doctors treating people "out of the >>> >> goodness of their hearts." >>> > >>> > This used to happen in the UK too before the NHS. It wasn't considered to be a >>> > very satisfactory arrangement. >>> > >>> > Graham >>> >>> Not satisfactory to whom? Screw them. >>> >>> If it satisfies the doctor's wish to make someone well, that's enough. >> >>Heck, all credit to the doctors of the day but it meant that ppl were reluctant to >>seek treatment if they were poor. > >On your last part of your response, I'll add this: > >Most of my life, I have been uninsured -- meaning, self-insured. I >wasn't particularly poor during that time, but I definitely would >weigh whether or not to take my own children to the doctor, wondering >and balancing the risks and costs. > >The fault of any mistakes I made over those years are entirely mine, >of course, but I don't believe that the health care of children should >be put to such questions, at all. Parents should not be asking >themselves the questions I asked myself. I don't think there is any >excuse at all for the fact that the US doesn't provide a baseline of >health care for all children, regardless of means. > >Our society is better than that, I think. My folks didn't ask those questions. When we were sick we went to the doctor. The Doc would take payment in chickens or produce or something. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 16 Nov 2006 09:15 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >You need to get away from the concept of commercial > >insurance. With that model there is no drive to save money. > > *I* do not need to get away from the concept. I am telling you > what our Democrats have in mind when they talk about a single-payer > system. What the Democrats 'have in mind' isn't the only possibilty ! > >Remember, the NHS is not insurance. > > I am telling you that your type of NHS would never be > implemented here I can accept its chances may be slim due to vested interests but that's not the point I was trying to make. > nor would it work. Just explain *why* it wouldn't work. You keep making this assertion on the basis of vague notions. > Yours depends on administrating the services locally. Not especially. > That cannot happen in a large country. Why not ? No vague notions please. > Your NHS would not work if it had to expand all way to Italy and Russia. So how do FedEx and DHL manage to work worldwide ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Nov 2006 09:30 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >Ok. So the USA is really truly corrupt then. > > No. We're going socialist. You're confusing things again. > >I'm learning. > > Not really. You leap to incorrect conclusions. Nope. I can see quite clearly. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Nov 2006 09:32
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >I'm asking " How about someone on that minimum wage job for example ? " as in > >.... they're on a minimum wage NOW - not at some hypothetical point in the > > future after their wages have increased. > > You keep ignoring the fact that everybody starts out at a low > wage in their working life. As they age, they should be getting > life experience that is salable for more money. Please stop evading the question. How does a ( young ) person on low wages get any medical tretment ? > You do keep ignoring that krw was talking about kids who > start working at minimum wage levels; these people do not > have to feed themselves, pay rent and all the other expenses > of living independently. Some will have to. You're generalising again to avoid real issues. Graham |