From: jmfbahciv on 16 Nov 2006 09:48 In article <4559D132.A2D0BE21(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >Local doesn't have to mean small. When I lived in the centre of London I had >> >a local GP and a local health centre. >> >> Yes it does to mean small. A local health center has a small >> capacity. Even if you assume that all medical appointments will >> take 5 minutes, the capacity of any center is severely limited. >> Say it is in a population of 10,000 and all come down with a >> flu in the same 24 hours. The center won't be able to handle >> 100, let along 10,000. > >The same problem arises just as much in the big cities too. > >In fact, in a rural location you likely don't have the easy means to spread >infections that fast anyway, no crowded transit systems and the like for example. I'm in an urban area. Around here, flu shots and nasal spray is dispensed in the grocery stores. There were no signs that said the flu clinics were being held and the news said that the distribution would be fixed soon, so I went to the grocery store Sunday. I took a chance. Now I've caught what they've put in this year's flu cocktail. Even in rural areas, if your shot and drug distribution centers are also located in food distribution centers, it is guaranteed that disease will spread because everybody who buys food will be exposed to all airborn bugs. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 16 Nov 2006 09:53 In article <dlmkl2p3pr0iehb2ln9t559bjl74uv27r1(a)4ax.com>, Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >On Tue, 14 Nov 06 13:50:00 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>When JMF was dying, I had to learn nursing procedures and doctor >>procedures without the benefit of schooling. I became an expert >>in minimizing side effects of drugs he was taking and made >>all kinds of mechanical assists to keep him as comfortable as >>possible. The ultimate question was who would die first? Him or >>me? >> >>My Dad is now going through the same bullshit only he has no >>advocate who will speak up and say no. On top of it all, >>their assigned "GP" is stupid. > >That's a shame. I wish you luck. It's Dad who needs the luck. The idiot doctor just prescibed a drug that almost killed him last summer; the same drug had severe side effects when Mom took it. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 16 Nov 2006 09:56 In article <NvWdnX3Em_cQu8fYRVnysw(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ejchl4$8ss_026(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <455760C3.C0979C51(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >I'm wondering if BAH thinks we have our treatment 'rationed'. >>>> >>>> Would you know if that happened? Since you can't "shop around" >>>> and compare, you cannot find out if your treatment is rationed, >>>> especially its efficacy. >>> >>>In one case I wasn't happy with the treatment I got from a concultant so >>>my >>>doctor referred me to another one. >> >> How many referrals are you allowed? > >IIRC there is no hard and fast limit. If after 3-4 the doctors think you are >jerking the system around you may have a harder time getting more, but you >don't really care about that. You are casting about for things to pounce on >as "flaws" with the NHS. Any number (from 1 to infinite) will be turned into >something you try to castigate the service with. Very naughty of you. > >How many referrals do you think the person should be allowed? At the moment, I'd like to limit the number of referrals a _doctor_ can make. Dad's on his 6th or 7th referral. And the basic stuff hasn't been done yet. They're playing the Medicare system to its max. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 16 Nov 2006 10:02 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: > > >Our society is better than that, I think. > > My folks didn't ask those questions. When we were sick we > went to the doctor. The Doc would take payment in chickens > or produce or something. I don't think they take chickens anymore ! Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 16 Nov 2006 09:57
In article <34mkl294ea9uq6ae6sbe451hor0s74hvul(a)4ax.com>, Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >On Tue, 14 Nov 06 13:51:32 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <455760C3.C0979C51(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >I'm wondering if BAH thinks we have our treatment 'rationed'. >>>> >>>> Would you know if that happened? Since you can't "shop around" >>>> and compare, you cannot find out if your treatment is rationed, >>>> especially its efficacy. >>> >>>In one case I wasn't happy with the treatment I got from a concultant so my >>>doctor referred me to another one. >> >>How many referrals are you allowed? > >LOL! I think the GP might get a bit ratty if you continually dissed >the highly qualified consultants, but I don't think there's a >statutory limit on how awkward you can be. Is your GP allowed to keep referring you to specialists forever without producing any diagnosis? /BAH |