Jihad needs scientists
in [Design]
|
From: unsettled on 25 Nov 2006 15:35 Don Bowey wrote: > On 11/25/06 9:40 AM, in article d2cf$45688016$4fe7197$8995(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > > >>Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: >> >> >>>In article <45686CC4.DA2FE2C9(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>Although one could argue that the coal mining industry in Wales was >>>>>>reaching the end of the line in the 70's and 80's, due to cheap EU >>>>>>imports of coal - what was more galling was the fact that there were no >>>>>>contingency plans set up by government. Her government simply shut up >>>>>>shop in Wales without any investment in replacement/alternatives. >>>>> >>>>>Good Lord! You mean the cradle to grave gravy train ended? >>>> >>>>Mining was hardly a gravy train. >>>> >>>>Graham >>> >>> >>>Of course it was, those miners went down in fur-lined elevators to >>>recline in comfy settee's and watch daytime TV. >>> >>>Ignoring the fact that Welsh coal and steel built most of the British >>>Empire, of course. >> >>>(quick rule of thumb - Unsettled is an idiot) >> >>Quick rule of thumb: Marxist socialists like Puddledick and >>the dumb donkey come to the discussion ill equipped to >>deal with the issues because they won't read political science >>and economics texts, let alone wikipedia: >> >>"In politics, 'gravy train' refers to a depraved gorging on >>luxuries, since someone else foots the bill." >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravy_train >> >>In this case, the "cradle to grave gravy train" refers to >>a socialist government providing for its charges. It is a >>common enough an idiom among the well read. >> >> >> > > > I believe the term from which some Wiki idiot stole that, is "cradle to > grave security." > Go fix what's wrong then.
From: Ken Smith on 25 Nov 2006 15:59 In article <a2165$45687e83$4fe7197$8951(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >Ken Smith wrote: [....] >The lemming reference isn't an idle insult, but a comment >that the person is heading over the cliff into the sea by >following some invisible passion (in the case of the >immediate discussion, the immediate discussion) blindly. Ok. The "invisible passion" part I'd missed. I'd taken it as following a person. [....] >> The lurkers are the ones that both sides have a chance to convince. You >> can't convince them if they get bored and quit reading. IIRC I made this >> point somewhere in the first week of this thread. > >While that's true, usually I'm just trying to have a discussion. >Those who repeatedly form more of a distraction than they >contribute have been openly killfiled. I skim rather than whole sale kill file. Sometimes people will come back to sanity and start posting reasonable stuff. I admit it isn't often though. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 25 Nov 2006 16:13 In article <7J6dneXEjMVVDfXYRVnyjQ(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > Yeah, she had some great ideas for making Britain strong by dismantling our > heavy industry, ruining our mining economy and making the country reliant on > FSU states for the import of basics like coal. > > For once I side with the Welsh here :-) Be careful, we could make you an honourary Cymry for that ! ;-) Actually a lot of the anti-English sentiment I see around me (which I personally don't agree with) is unfortunately linked part and parcel to the nature of the way Wales has been run from afar. The Treason of the Blue Books angered the linguistic nationalists, and the destruction of a heavy industry that had powered the expansion of the British empire in the late 19th C early 20th C angered the political ones. Even though sometimes I see Welsh Labour making a real farce of power in Cardiff, I am still a pro-devolutionist and I think decentralisation is an important vector for change here in the UK One of the last modern attempts of revolution in Britain came from South Wales, the Chartists. ;-) -- Just \int_0^\infty du it! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Don Bowey on 25 Nov 2006 16:13 On 11/25/06 12:35 PM, in article 4439c$4568a90d$49ecffb$9823(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > Don Bowey wrote: > >> On 11/25/06 9:40 AM, in article d2cf$45688016$4fe7197$8995(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Phineas T Puddleduck wrote: >>> >>> >>>> In article <45686CC4.DA2FE2C9(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Although one could argue that the coal mining industry in Wales was >>>>>>> reaching the end of the line in the 70's and 80's, due to cheap EU >>>>>>> imports of coal - what was more galling was the fact that there were no >>>>>>> contingency plans set up by government. Her government simply shut up >>>>>>> shop in Wales without any investment in replacement/alternatives. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Lord! You mean the cradle to grave gravy train ended? >>>>> >>>>> Mining was hardly a gravy train. >>>>> >>>>> Graham >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course it was, those miners went down in fur-lined elevators to >>>> recline in comfy settee's and watch daytime TV. >>>> >>>> Ignoring the fact that Welsh coal and steel built most of the British >>>> Empire, of course. >>> >>>> (quick rule of thumb - Unsettled is an idiot) >>> >>> Quick rule of thumb: Marxist socialists like Puddledick and >>> the dumb donkey come to the discussion ill equipped to >>> deal with the issues because they won't read political science >>> and economics texts, let alone wikipedia: >>> >>> "In politics, 'gravy train' refers to a depraved gorging on >>> luxuries, since someone else foots the bill." >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravy_train >>> >>> In this case, the "cradle to grave gravy train" refers to >>> a socialist government providing for its charges. It is a >>> common enough an idiom among the well read. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> I believe the term from which some Wiki idiot stole that, is "cradle to >> grave security." >> > > Go fix what's wrong then. > I have done that a couple times, but have since decided I have better things to do than attempt to fix the Internet's problems.
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 25 Nov 2006 16:14
In article <KsCdncy1lLqVDPXYRVnyuQ(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > > Her idea of running the economy using 'corner shop' economics was a total > > disaster. > > Don't let /BAH hear you say that.... She is convinced Thatcher was the great > saviour of UK economics. /BAH wouldn't for one second think that Thatcher's > meddling caused all manner of long term problems. And not just political. I view the chav phenomenon that troubles area near here as a social repercussion to the late thatcherite agenda. -- Just \int_0^\infty du it! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |