From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 20:16 krw wrote: > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net says... > > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net says... > > > > > >> "shock and aw" == terrorism > > > > > >No, it's war. You want to shock the enemy into submission. To do > > >otherwise is inhumane. More will be killed, eventually. > > > > It is using fear to reach a political goal. > > To instill fear in the opponent's ARMY rather than civilian > population. You reckon bombing Baghdad was meant to instill fear in the Iraqi *ARMY* ? Funny way to go about it. Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 20:17 krw wrote: > I do not agree that war == violence. Oh that makes it all fine then. Graham
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 20:19 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>T Wake wrote: > >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > >>> > >>> > It [the NHS] is run under the same laws. That is a uniform economy. > Each > >>> > of our states have their own laws. Very few federal laws > >>> > supercede state law. Cases before our Supreme Court are cases > >>> > where the Feds want control and the states say no. > >>> > >>> The law in Scotland is different from the law in England. Why do you > >>> think they are the same? > >> > >>It would appear to be another of her mis / preconceptions. > >> > >>Mnay Americans don't even realise the UK is made up of 4 countries. > > > > And I was thinking of the Magna Carta. > > Blimey. Your time warp is malfunctioning even more than I previously > thought. The Magna Carta forms as much of a basis for the US constitution as > it does UK laws. 1215 A.D. I even remebered that but checked it with google for good measure. Graham
From: unsettled on 25 Nov 2006 20:21 T Wake wrote: > "Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message > news:phineaspuddleduck-416009.21422525112006(a)free.teranews.com... > >>In article <Ls-dnZRLjKdkKvXYnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> >>>I certainly agree on that. "Chavs" have a tendency to crop up most in the >>>areas most affected by Thacherite policies. >> >>It seems to be a rebellion to the way things were done. You have the >>worst of both systems. The right wing view that everything now >>disallowed is permissible, and the left wing view that the state should >>mollycoddle you. Add that to a fanatical hatred of anything not "local" >>and "familar" and you have a chav. >> >>I'm left of centre myself. I can see the need for the state to keep >>checks and balances, but human nature sometimes really makes me cry! > > > Prior to getting embroiled in this thread, I thought I was fairly right of > centre. I now see the error in my ways and I am firmly left of centre now. I > suspect half the apparently right wing extremists posting on this thread > live very different lives away from USENET. > > I wonder if Americans have chavs. > > We haven't found a way to keep you out!
From: Eeyore on 25 Nov 2006 20:22
krw wrote: > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > Take a look at European nations that are blatant socialists. > > > > False premise commented on. > > > > > They have to import people to do the work. > > > > Like Mexicans in the 'socialist' USA you mean ? > > A little. The difference is that the Mexicans are here illegally > rather than having been invited in because of a negative population > rate. A large number of illegals work here too - estimated to be as many as 1 million. It's a current hot topic with us too. Most are 'overstayers' rather than having entered illegally in the first place though. > It's about time for an open season on Mexican here. Some ppl here wouldn't mind something similar here too. Not wrt Mexicans of course ! Graham |