From: Eeyore on


krw wrote:

> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net says...
> > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote:
> >>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net says...
> > >
> > >> "shock and aw" == terrorism
> > >
> > >No, it's war. You want to shock the enemy into submission. To do
> > >otherwise is inhumane. More will be killed, eventually.
> >
> > It is using fear to reach a political goal.
>
> To instill fear in the opponent's ARMY rather than civilian
> population.

You reckon bombing Baghdad was meant to instill fear in the Iraqi *ARMY* ? Funny way
to go about it.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


krw wrote:

> I do not agree that war == violence.

Oh that makes it all fine then.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


T Wake wrote:

> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>T Wake wrote:
> >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> > It [the NHS] is run under the same laws. That is a uniform economy.
> Each
> >>> > of our states have their own laws. Very few federal laws
> >>> > supercede state law. Cases before our Supreme Court are cases
> >>> > where the Feds want control and the states say no.
> >>>
> >>> The law in Scotland is different from the law in England. Why do you
> >>> think they are the same?
> >>
> >>It would appear to be another of her mis / preconceptions.
> >>
> >>Mnay Americans don't even realise the UK is made up of 4 countries.
> >
> > And I was thinking of the Magna Carta.
>
> Blimey. Your time warp is malfunctioning even more than I previously
> thought. The Magna Carta forms as much of a basis for the US constitution as
> it does UK laws.

1215 A.D. I even remebered that but checked it with google for good measure.

Graham


From: unsettled on
T Wake wrote:

> "Phineas T Puddleduck" <phineaspuddleduck(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:phineaspuddleduck-416009.21422525112006(a)free.teranews.com...
>
>>In article <Ls-dnZRLjKdkKvXYnZ2dnUVZ8smdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
>>"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I certainly agree on that. "Chavs" have a tendency to crop up most in the
>>>areas most affected by Thacherite policies.
>>
>>It seems to be a rebellion to the way things were done. You have the
>>worst of both systems. The right wing view that everything now
>>disallowed is permissible, and the left wing view that the state should
>>mollycoddle you. Add that to a fanatical hatred of anything not "local"
>>and "familar" and you have a chav.
>>
>>I'm left of centre myself. I can see the need for the state to keep
>>checks and balances, but human nature sometimes really makes me cry!
>
>
> Prior to getting embroiled in this thread, I thought I was fairly right of
> centre. I now see the error in my ways and I am firmly left of centre now. I
> suspect half the apparently right wing extremists posting on this thread
> live very different lives away from USENET.
>
> I wonder if Americans have chavs.
>
>
We haven't found a way to keep you out!

From: Eeyore on


krw wrote:

> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says...
> > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Take a look at European nations that are blatant socialists.
> >
> > False premise commented on.
> >
> > > They have to import people to do the work.
> >
> > Like Mexicans in the 'socialist' USA you mean ?
>
> A little. The difference is that the Mexicans are here illegally
> rather than having been invited in because of a negative population
> rate.

A large number of illegals work here too - estimated to be as many as 1 million.
It's a current hot topic with us too. Most are 'overstayers' rather than having
entered illegally in the first place though.


> It's about time for an open season on Mexican here.

Some ppl here wouldn't mind something similar here too. Not wrt Mexicans of
course !

Graham