From: Eeyore on 4 Dec 2006 09:27 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> When everybody gets everything equally, nobody is > >> >> >> allowed to be wealthy. Thus, all are poor, equally poor, but > >> >> >> poor. > >> >> > > >> >> >Even communist Russia wasn't run like that ! > >> >> > >> >> Of course it was. Only the viscious of the managers got the > >> >> power. > >> > > >> >We were talking about wealth, albeit rather limited wealth in that era. > >> > >> And look how their agriculture suffered. How people get food is a clue > >> to their economy, social structure, trade and power. > > > >This has absolutely nothing to do with degress of wealth under communism. > > If that is true then I've been wasting all of my studying time. > However, I haven't wasted my time; you can tell a lot from > old grocery lists. The 'wealth' of the favoured few wasn't perhaps so obvious. It might have been a better apartment and access to party shops with better produce or for the real high-ups a dacha in the country, your own car with a driver perhaps and so on. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Dec 2006 09:29 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > >>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>For me hex and hex were the same thing. I worked for year in > >>>>>>an octal environment. I'd never be able to convert to hex. > >>>>> > >>>>>In a different world it was said of one bit god, > >>>>>the patron saint of cpm, that "For him, assembler > >>>>>is a high level language." > >>>> > >>>>If you want to dabble in machine lanugage and not have to struggle > >>>>with binary arithmetic, play with IBM's 1620. > >>> > >>>Ah, the CADET (Can't Add, Didn't Even Try). Addressing was still > >>>binary, no? (long before my time) > >> > >> > >> I don't think it was. I never knew about binary until I met > >> a PDP-10. I had no idea about bases other than 10. There > >> were a few math problems that dealt with converting logs > >> in my past, but nothing was tied to reality. They were just > >> logic problems that were fun to do but never used. > > > >Yet you're old enough to have used a slide rule. > > Yup. I used it for a few physics problems but did the > arithmetic by hand instead. I got "better" answers. Heck, even I'm old enought to have used a slide rule. I still must have one somewhere ! Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Dec 2006 09:31 Eeyore wrote: > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > > > > > >To keep the comparison fair, the machinery of that age was much > > >better designed and wasn't on a short replacement cycle. Well > > >after WW2 my mother didn't replace the washing machine till > > >my parenst decided to buy a fancy new automatic washer. Even then > > >the wringer washer was held as a spare in case the fancy one broke > > >down. Eventually I pulled it apart for the motor which saw > > >various uses for more than a decade afterwards. > > > > And the backup to the wringer was the washboard, which invariably > > ate one's knuckles. > > One of my neighbours to this day still doesn't even have a washing machine. I nearly forgot. The neighbour on the other side doesn't have a TV, nor has he ever had one AFAIK. Neither have proper hi-fis either. Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Dec 2006 09:41 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > >unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>Ken Smith wrote: > >> > >>> The world government I see forming will be a very strictly secular one. > >>> The US has the seperation of church and state because the founders saw the > >>> horrors that results when you mix the two. A world government would have > >>> the seperation for different and very practical reasons. Even within > >>> Islam, there is a great deal of disagreement about what the rules really > >>> are. > >> > >>They remain in a medieval tribal mindset. Nothing else matters. > > > >Actually a great deal else matters. The fact that they can't agree among > >themselves makes them weak. They won't all follow any given leader. They > >will fight among themselves. > > This will happen after the West is destroyed. And how do you think that's going to happen ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Dec 2006 09:45
unsettled wrote: > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > >>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>For me hex and hex were the same thing. I worked for year in > >>>>>>>an octal environment. I'd never be able to convert to hex. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>In a different world it was said of one bit god, > >>>>>>the patron saint of cpm, that "For him, assembler > >>>>>>is a high level language." CP/M was written in my favourite language ( PL/M ). > >>>>>If you want to dabble in machine lanugage and not have to struggle > >>>>>with binary arithmetic, play with IBM's 1620. > >>>> > >>>>Ah, the CADET (Can't Add, Didn't Even Try). Addressing was still > >>>>binary, no? (long before my time) > >>> > >>> > >>>I don't think it was. I never knew about binary until I met > >>>a PDP-10. I had no idea about bases other than 10. There > >>>were a few math problems that dealt with converting logs > >>>in my past, but nothing was tied to reality. They were just > >>>logic problems that were fun to do but never used. > >> > >>Yet you're old enough to have used a slide rule. > > > > > > Yup. I used it for a few physics problems but did the > > arithmetic by hand instead. I got "better" answers. > > Then possibly you used logs without realizing it. Ha ! Log tables. It's all coming back to me now. How did we ever manage ! ? Graham |