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From: T Wake on 4 Dec 2006 12:16 "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message news:73101$45730543$4fe70d7$29287(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> In article <4572483D.8CB44CB6(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > snip > >>>It's more to do with 'professors' not having a clue about the real world > >> IMHO. > >> Those professors never had exposure to the real world when they >> were kids. It's a problem; one of the ones I'm working on. > > > One of the beauties of universal military service. In principle, National Service is a good idea - although I think people should be "conscripted" to "social" type work (and I suspect this will be heckled as being "socialist" by many knee-jerkers). Conscript soldiers nearly always undermine the militaries effectiveness. A modern army needs willing volunteers who are prepared to do the bad, harsh, things. Armies with conscripts have (in my personal experience) always been inferior.
From: mmeron on 4 Dec 2006 12:25 In article <33475$45740fba$4fe70a2$2686(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <83aa4$457305a4$4fe70d7$29287(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <MPG.1fdb63e0b29518b4989d88(a)news.individual.net>, >>>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <ekrvkr$8qk_002(a)s1015.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article <b59c2$4570f18a$4fe7357$10170(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>For me hex and hex were the same thing. I worked for year in >>>>>>>>an octal environment. I'd never be able to convert to hex. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>In a different world it was said of one bit god, >>>>>>>the patron saint of cpm, that "For him, assembler >>>>>>>is a high level language." >>>>>> >>>>>>If you want to dabble in machine lanugage and not have to struggle >>>>>>with binary arithmetic, play with IBM's 1620. >>>>> >>>>>Ah, the CADET (Can't Add, Didn't Even Try). Addressing was still >>>>>binary, no? (long before my time) >>>> >>>> >>>>I don't think it was. I never knew about binary until I met >>>>a PDP-10. I had no idea about bases other than 10. There >>>>were a few math problems that dealt with converting logs >>>>in my past, but nothing was tied to reality. They were just >>>>logic problems that were fun to do but never used. >>> >>>Yet you're old enough to have used a slide rule. >> >> >> Yup. I used it for a few physics problems but did the >> arithmetic by hand instead. I got "better" answers. > >Then possibly you used logs without realizing it. > >You might have an interesting conversation with Meron >about your better answers. > I was tempted, but passed on this one:-) Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: T Wake on 4 Dec 2006 12:34 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:457248FF.3BCC9C75(a)hotmail.com... > > sci.physics isn't much about physics at all but rather the poor state of > US > education. > Sadly not just US education.
From: unsettled on 4 Dec 2006 12:35 mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > In article <33475$45740fba$4fe70a2$2686(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>In article <83aa4$457305a4$4fe70d7$29287(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <MPG.1fdb63e0b29518b4989d88(a)news.individual.net>, >>>>> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article <ekrvkr$8qk_002(a)s1015.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>In article <b59c2$4570f18a$4fe7357$10170(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>For me hex and hex were the same thing. I worked for year in >>>>>>>>>an octal environment. I'd never be able to convert to hex. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In a different world it was said of one bit god, >>>>>>>>the patron saint of cpm, that "For him, assembler >>>>>>>>is a high level language." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you want to dabble in machine lanugage and not have to struggle >>>>>>>with binary arithmetic, play with IBM's 1620. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ah, the CADET (Can't Add, Didn't Even Try). Addressing was still >>>>>>binary, no? (long before my time) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I don't think it was. I never knew about binary until I met >>>>>a PDP-10. I had no idea about bases other than 10. There >>>>>were a few math problems that dealt with converting logs >>>>>in my past, but nothing was tied to reality. They were just >>>>>logic problems that were fun to do but never used. >>>> >>>>Yet you're old enough to have used a slide rule. >>> >>> >>>Yup. I used it for a few physics problems but did the >>>arithmetic by hand instead. I got "better" answers. >> >>Then possibly you used logs without realizing it. >> >>You might have an interesting conversation with Meron >>about your better answers. >> > > I was tempted, but passed on this one:-) She recovered well enough.
From: Eeyore on 4 Dec 2006 12:59
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Are you seriously suggesting someone born to a poverty family has > >> >> >> >the same > >> >> >> >chance of becoming successful as someone born to a rich family in a > >> >> >> >capitalistic society? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yes. I will even go further and state that the poor kid has more > >> >> >> motivation than the rich kid. Thus, the poor kid will succeed > >> >> >> more often than the rich kid. > >> >> > > >> >> >I rather doubt that it happens like that in practice. > >> >> > >> >> But it happens all the time in the US, which is capitalistic > >> >> and not socialistic. > >> > > >> >I rather doubt that it does happen all the time in the USA. I suspect it's > >> > just another of your fanciful folksy notions. > >> > >> Nope. It's fact. > > > >I still don't believe you. Your 'facts' have been rather fanciful to date. > All of my brothers and sisters bought their own home before they > got legal (21). They were on their second or third car. They > worked and supported themselves. All of my relatives on my mother's > side had some kind farm business before they were legal. > > None were rich. None were even middle class. Most were poor. My idea of poor doesn't include owning a car or home of your own ! You seemt to have a very odd definition for the term. Graham |