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From: jmfbahciv on 5 Dec 2006 07:19 In article <45742DA0.41C26436(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >Ken Smith wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> The so called "war on terror" has cost the US a great deal without >> >> >> really yelding anything much as a result. >> >> > >> >> >You're kidding. >> >> > >> >> >It's yielded greater instability in the word and more hatred of the USA ( >> >> >entirely justified this time ). >> >> > >> >> >What sheer brilliance. >> >> >> >> You both have been blind. >> > >> >Come on then. Don't be shy. What's your opinion on the matter ? >> >> The sound bite "war on xxxx" was misused so often that, when >> the real thing is happening, nobody pays attention. The fable >> about the boy crying wolf has become reality. > >That wasn't quite what I meant but I can't really disgree with that statement. > >To return to the original question. Do you feel this so-called 'war on terror' >has been useful or counter-productive ? It has been useful. Libya decided it would give up making atom bombs in return for trade. Saudis are slowly emancipating their women. Somalia is trying to sort itself out and seems to be tottering towards trade rather than isolation. A lot of Americans, who now have to remain mute, have had lessons on what happens when politics and policies are left to people who undermine the Constitution. These people have also reexamined their priorities and threw the old ones out and have a new list. Slowly, albeit too slowly, the public health departments are back to doing their jobs and have started thinking about how to manage a pandemic. The internet has tweaked the US media's nose and serves as a check in that realm. The socioeconmic problems that have been festering since the Ottoman Empire finally ended are now being addressed. I'm still working on trying to understand this one. /BAH /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Dec 2006 07:37 In article <45743300.1482BA0B(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>Ken Smith wrote: >> >> >>> This assumes that the US doesn't meddle and make it take a lot longer. >> >>> The yonger generation in Iran want their freedom. They still are muslim. >> >> >>> Christians of today would not be infavor of the Spanish Inquisition[1]. >> >> >> >>Well now that's not necessarily true. The Inquisition was pretty >> >>much against families of former Jews who had converted but had >> >>held on to some or many of their old practices. >> > >> >Which part isn't true? I don't think many christians want another >> >inquisition. >> >> Are you kidding? I haven't met a bornagain that doesn't preach >> for another one. Take a good look at what Southern Baptists are >> doing in the northern states. Listen to some of the Falwell-like >> preachers that show up on cable. Look at their eyes; most contain >> glints of insanity. > >Talking of insane have you heard about the bunch of god-believers who think humans >and dinosaurs once co-existed ? Sure. I even know some who think the heavens and the earth have were created 10,000 years ago...IIRC, that's the number. <snip> >There are many things I find deeply disturbing about the USA ! That was the problem I was working on before 9/11. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Dec 2006 07:40 In article <457433A9.82815974(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> >unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>Ken Smith wrote: >> >> >> >>> The world government I see forming will be a very strictly secular one. >> >>> The US has the seperation of church and state because the founders saw the >> >>> horrors that results when you mix the two. A world government would have >> >>> the seperation for different and very practical reasons. Even within >> >>> Islam, there is a great deal of disagreement about what the rules really >> >>> are. >> >> >> >>They remain in a medieval tribal mindset. Nothing else matters. >> > >> >Actually a great deal else matters. The fact that they can't agree among >> >themselves makes them weak. They won't all follow any given leader. They >> >will fight among themselves. >> >> This will happen after the West is destroyed. > >And how do you think that's going to happen ? All one has to do is interrupt trade. Trade became almost non-existent within 50 years after the Roman Empire took their seed corn and pissed on it. As before, I am not going to answer your question. I can think of several ways; I don't intend to give anybody pointers. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 5 Dec 2006 07:41 In article <45743541.14613C02(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >> > >> >Now given that I know this about you, why should I take your word on >> >Hillary's actions? >> >> You might try to find the Business Week article. You might observe >> her history where, given a choice of a simple legal action vs. >> a complicated illegal action, she picks the latter. You might >> review how she tried to skirt around Congress when she was given >> the power to run the US' medical business. >> >> You really should do all that; she's now doing the preliminary >> running for 2008 Presidency. The Liberals in this state want >> her for President so that Bill can take over again. > >That might be no bad thing although after GWB, almost 'anyone' would be an >improvement. IOW, you cede. /BAH
From: Bruce Scott TOK on 5 Dec 2006 07:49
Typical of right wingnuts to 1) turn this to a thread about Hillary 2) focus on her minutiae (and slick willie's) while ignoring the magnitude of what came after The difference in the scale of the corruption is at least three orders of magnitude, people. In lives as well as in money. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/ |