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From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 19:56 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > >> > I'm saying that if someone threatens their fundamental freedoms, the > >> > British public will defend them. > >> > >> Hopefully. > >> > >> I grow less and less sure of this as I watch public debate each day. > > > > I think you mean political debate. I doubt the public would stand for it. > > Nope, public debate - granted most of that is what the media show. I am not > for one second suggesting chat shows or vox pop news is completely > indicative of public opinion - however, the media needs to get > listeners/viewers/readers so generally the opinions expressed _are_ > representative. > > Our reactions to things are an example of public fear. The nonsense that > goes on at Airports is a shocking example of how people would rather be > messed around to "feel" safe, than actually institute effective security > measures. That idiocy infuriates me. We are no safer for it at all. > When we all have to carry ID cards I will know the "war" is indeed over. Where have you got your view of current public debate here from ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 20:00 John Fields wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > > > >> I think the US's actions speak otherwise in that, clearly, we have > >> no aspirations to Empire. > > > >" the Project for the New American Century is a non-profit, educational organization > >whose goal is to promote American global leadership " > > > >http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm > > > >> Had we chosen to we could have kept > >> Germany and Japan after we beat them, but we didn't. > > > >The *USA* didn't beat them and they weren't yours to keep. > > --- > We sure as hell did I'd give you most of the credit for Japan but Europe ? No way ever. > , and they were spoils of war, to do with as we saw fit. No they weren't ! > How do you think England got to be an empire, by giving it all back? How many countries did we have to go to war with ( and how many killed ) to get the Empire ? Graham
From: Homer J Simpson on 4 Oct 2006 20:07 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:qnh8i2l3sk3mgns6ct1ausd966j3ah3kiu(a)4ax.com... >>In no real sense. At best they are fatuous claims of superiority "God's >>chosen people". Reality rarely confirms such beliefs. > > --- > Really? > > Dietary laws? > > Acceptable social behavior? > > Personal cleanliness? > > Settlement of disputes? > > and on and on... > > None of these are important to insure the survival of people who > have lived in the desert for thousands of years? Australian aborigines?
From: John Fields on 4 Oct 2006 20:07 On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 20:37:44 +0100, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >news:s2k7i2lbbpsdepbsu912116dvi0vpa6tcf(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:30:06 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" >> <nobody(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:45229733.8D7D0F64(a)hotmail.com... >>> >>>> Reputedy Mohammed went a little ga-ga in his later years. Anyway, show >>>> me >>>> a religious text that*isn't* >>>> riddled with contradictions. >>> >>>They're all really just books of magic spells anyway. >> >> --- >> No, they're not. They're survival manuals. >> > >Cool. Do they tell you which plants you can eat in the jungle? That has >always impressed me in the survival books. --- No, they're mostly about survival in the desert and its environs. Which animals to eat and things like that. -- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer
From: Eeyore on 4 Oct 2006 20:15
John Fields wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:24:11 +0100, Eeyore > >> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Ever wondered why it [international terrorism] happens to the USA > >> most btw ? > >> > >> --- > >> Nope. Losers want to blame everyone but themselves for their > >> predicaments and, so, take shots at the champ in an attemp to try to > >> convince themselves that they're not impotent. > > > >Let me explain then. > > > >It becasue America pokes its nose into stuff that's none of its business > >all the time and just generally likes to kick the little guys around. > > --- > Translation: > > Because America has the wherewithal and the will to do whatever it > wants to, and all the little guys resent that. That too. Especially when it makes no sense. What do you think about the Vincennes shooting down an Iranian Airbus then ? Graham |