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From: unsettled on 3 Jan 2007 17:55 T Wake wrote: > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:d6db4$459c2a9c$4fe7356$31348(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > >>T Wake wrote: > > <snip> > >>>Also, "appeasement" of Nazi Germany was carried out by more countries >>>than the ones in Europe. >> >>For sure. But we do love to blame you. LOL > > > Nothing wrong with that. :-) > > >>>I am sure if Iran annexes the Persian version of the Sudetenland the >>>analogy may be more appropriate, but at the moment it isn't. >> >>The future is bound to be interesting. > > > It always is :-) > > >>>>>>>>The US anti-Bushers >>>>>>>>seem to want European law rather than US Constituional law. >> >>>>>>>There is no "European Law". >> >>>>>>Exactly. >> >>>>>Blimey. IKWYABWAI variant if ever I saw one. >> >>>>Part of the disagreements in this thread are real legitimate >>>>head on crashes. Some of them are the product of a significant >>>>cultural mismatch which perhaps neither of the two of you >>>>actually grasps. >> >>>Two of who? >> >>You and BAH. > > > Ah. First time I have been lumped in a collective with /BAH. I feel > soiled...... > > :-D I suppose I've had a really good day then. LOL
From: Eeyore on 3 Jan 2007 21:17 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >> >Ken Smith wrote: > >> > > >> >> This is flat wrong. Many americans have been and are being listened to > >> >> without a warrent. Bush claims that no warrent is needed. > >> > > >> >Do you have some insight into what the activities are of > >> >the official US sleuthing business? > >> > > >> >Does the US constitution extend its protections beyond our > >> >borders? > >> > >> This is the crux of the matter. It amazes me that the > >> anti-Bush people insist that all have to follow our > >> Constitution yet hide behind the European nationalist > >> skirts when it comes to paying for it. > > > >Who are these "European nationalists" ?? > > Those who denounce the US using its armed forces, but expect > the US to provide protection when the messes become too big. So where does nationalism come into it ? > Europe has the job of dealing with Iran. There isn't much > going on is there? And Iran's delaying tactics are working. > In two years, we'll see if these tactics worked as well as > they did in the 1930s. You're referring to their nuclear ambitions ? I really don't know what you're on about. > >> The US anti-Bushers seem to want European law rather than US Constituional > law. > > > >There is no "European Law". > > Exactly. Exactly what ? > > What did you mean ? > > It's what keeps getting referenced, AFAICT, when all the anti-Bushers > say he's breaking the law. Eh ? I couldn't make head or tail of any of that. Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Jan 2007 21:25 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: > > > >I listed one that should matter to you. You BAH have been denied your > >Constitutional rights. > > No, I haven't. It is only your opinion that I have, but you are > wrong. If you're accidentally suspected of being a terrorist you no longer have resort to habeas corpus though. > > Bush has made the claim that he can listen to your > >phone calls. In your opinion, perhaps you don't deserve these rights. > > He can listen using the procedures described in the Patriot Act > if, and only if, I cause attraction to myself by talking about > procurement and disbrusement of mess-making subjects. So I don't > do that. I also haven't said the word bomb in an airport since > 1975 or so. > > Has my Constitutional rights been taken away because it is no > longer a prudent thing to say the word bomb when I'm going > through security? > > Use your noodle. Surely you mean noddle ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Jan 2007 21:44 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Ken Smith wrote: > >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Once the terrorism eventually drops into oblivion the > >> >wiretaps will also cease. > >> > >> I doubt it. When did the honey bee subsidy end? It was needed encourage > >> bee keeping to make wax for bullets. > >> > >> >All this assumes the terrorists lose. > >> > >> I am confident that the method to terrorism will remain in use for a long > >> time. It will be new groups with new reasons. > > > >It's been with us at least since the time of the Roman Empire. > > > >I doubt that terrorism will suddenly cease to be an attractive option for > >thosewho want to make a big impact with relatively few followers. > > You keep assuming that this mindset exists. That is what the > mindset of moderates need to change to; but it hasn't yet. I think you've misread me. I was pointing out that you won't get rid of the tactic of terror with an army. Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Jan 2007 21:45
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Ken Smith wrote: > > > >> Until someone is found guilty of a crime, that person has the full rights > >> under US law. > > > >Unless *suspected* of terrorism of course in which case their rights are > >voided. > > If you agree with Ken's statement, you are also agreeing to be > a subject of the US Constitution. If that is the case, > you can find your tax forms at irs.gov. Your evasion of the issue is noted. I wasn't talking about *me* anyway. Do pay attention. Graham |