From: Ken Smith on
In article <45A30FA4.3E2E7377(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
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>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >Have you see the size of the small print they use for ingredients ?
>>
>> Yes. People bring magnifying glasses with them so they can read
>> the labels.
>
>Do they ? I've never seen that. It seems to be an odd way to go about avoiding
>being poisoned.

It is effective though. These days, I need my reading glasses to shop. I
can pick out MSG in a product label from 50 paces, I've had so much
practice rejecting food with it in it.

MSG gives me the worst headache on the planet.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <45A26F1E.5F007791(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >The problem is heart disease and removing trans fats from ppls' diets
>> >will reduce that.
>>
>> Maybe we have ahold of the wrong end of the problem. Some people die of
>> heart disease if they eat trans fats. Others only get a little sicker
>> than they normally would be. A bit of "unnatural selection" could be at
>> work here and eventually, only those who survive eating trans fats will be
>> left. Outlawing them only prevents the breeding of this stronger race of
>> humans. :)
>
>I don't want to be one of those who die of it !

I'm sure Darwin will say "Sucks to be you" if you do. :)

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <entn7b$8qk_003(a)s947.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>In article <entkvo$kr2$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
[... access to information ...]
>A person can learn without access.

No they can't. Without information input there is no learning.

> However, each person has
>to make the same mistakes.

If I hit my thumb with a hammer, I quickly recieve the information that it
is a bad idea. If there is no feedback from actions, you can't identify
mistakes.


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From: Don Klipstein on
In article <env7ch$eom$4(a)blue.rahul.net>, Ken Smith wrote:
>In article <45A25C74.A2593FAD(a)hotmail.com>,
>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>[....]
>>If tans-fats could be associated with some clear benefit that would be
>>fine but all I'm aware of is its negatives.
>
>They keep better.

What I heard is that the worse stuff lasts longer in fryers and better
tolerates the higher temperatures that are good for making nice crispy
deep-fat-fried goods.

Room temperature storage (even in a non-airconditioned building in
Philadelphia or other subtropical summertime hellholes in summertime)
is not much of an issue.

- Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com)
From: Ken Smith on
In article <77600$45a27180$cdd085cc$9806(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Ken Smith wrote:
[....]
>>>I've sat on a one legged stool before. The fact yours has
>>>three might be a cute argument but is of no consequence
>>>to the discussion at hand.
>>
>>
>> All three items are needed for learning to happen. If any one is in
>> short supply, it becomes the limiting factor. If that is so, you can't
>> all one more important than the other.
>
>Untrue.

No, sorry it is true.

>
>An individual can learn without "access to data" in the
>context BAH discusses it and we start that at birth.

We get information in for the outside world starting at birth. If we are
lucky, we have parents to teach us. The data they provide is external to
the child. The only issue is the "written down" part of the knowledge
base. Without it your learning is greatly slowed.


[...]
>Given an individual with the eagerness for knowledge
>and the capacity to understand you can't hold that
>individual back from learning, regardless of their
>"access to knowledge that's been written down."
>
>They may be hampered in the content of what they learn,
>but they sure won't be kept from learning.

If you hampered their learning by 50% you kept them from learning by 50%.

>How do you think humankind managed to develop the database
>of knowledge we presently possess? Divine revelation?

No, they learned what was already known and added an item or two and then
passed it along. Mere trial and error can be used to add to the knowledge
base. It won't do for recreating it from scratch in one person though.




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