From: Eeyore on 8 Jan 2007 10:13 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> butter isn't really butter anymore. > > > >No ? Does it not come from cows any more ? > > Buy some butter. Melt it. See how much of the brick is fluff > [there's a cooking name for this but I can't remember it]. Use ghee or clarified butter in that case. > >> You think it's funny? Legislating food chemical content is > >> new trick. It used to be set by a committee who, presumedly, > >> had some education about these things. Now it's lawyers > >> legislating the latest diet fad^Winsanity. > > > >Trans fats are chemically manufactured. > > > >It's not a natural FOOD ! > > Really? " The initial purpose was to create a cheaper substance to make candles than the expensive animal fats in use at the time. Electricity began to diminish the candle market, and since the product looked like lard, they began selling it as a food. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisco Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Jan 2007 10:09 In article <45A252EB.C82F4E02(a)earthlink.net>, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> In article <45A13A91.814C9D8F(a)earthlink.net>, >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >> >> I tried with lard when I was kid. It didn't work but I can't remember >> >> why nor what the results were. >> > >> > >> > WHAT did you try "with lard"? >> >> Making pie crusts. > > > I'm not sure, but I think you have to use a lot less lard than >Crisco. I'll look it up. My recipe uses ~(1/3 cup Crisco)/(10" pie crust). > Its been over 40 years since I watched my grandmother at work >at the wood stove in her farmhouse in Kentucky. About the only thing >they bought was flour and salt, everything else they ate came from their >fields. My folks bought a little bit more but never vegetables nor fruits. Our summers off from school were spent picking, cleaning, and canning or freezing, including meats. Mom stopped meats when the store bought became cheaper than the price on the hoof. We didn't have the acreage to grow our own meat other than chickens. Dad had stopped farming and we lived on only 4 acres. That area seemed to be the only place I could buy wooden spoons that were made well. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Jan 2007 10:13 In article <45A257BE.73422C4(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com writes: >> >> But fat is becoming illegal....or haven't you noticed? >> > >> >No, transfats are becoming illegal. That and tobacco. >> >> There is already talk in my state to make possession of >> tobacco illegal. > >You told this lie once before. It's not a lie. The PC types are starting to say these words. In about 10 years, making possesion illegal will become the "right" thing to do. That's how smoking outdoors became illegal. It was banned indoors; now it's banned outdoors. Why should food be treated any differently? >> Fat won't be far behind. You should >> realize that anything that might be harmful will be >> taking this route. Legislatures rarely repeal their laws >> so the list of foodstuffs will get longer and longer even >> if a real application of science proves the old ones wrong. > >For heavens sake girl ! 'Normal' fat occurs naturally. Trans-fat soesn't. > >Did you know that the original idea of Crisco btw was to make candles. It only >got sold as a 'food' as an afterthought. No, I didn't know that. Did you know that we used to chew candles because gum was too expensive? >> >Don't >> >you see the trend? It's things beginning with 't' that are >> >under attack! >> >> After the t's are done, which letter will be next? S? > >Eh ? The poster started to play a game. I responded. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 8 Jan 2007 10:21 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: > >> > >>>How do you like Bush asserting he's got the right to open and read > >>>first-class mail? > >> > >>During WWII all mail going and coming from overseas was read. > > > >Now we have laws forbidding that. > > These are peacetime laws. Is this peacetime or not ? Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 8 Jan 2007 10:15
In article <entkvo$kr2$1(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >In article <9a890$45a1abb9$cdd0848c$5296(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>Ken Smith wrote: >> >>> In article <b01ac$45a0f7f9$cdd08512$1347(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>>>You have forgotten the most important part of education: access >>>>>to the knowledge that's been written down. >>>> >>>>Nope, the most important part of education is eagerness >>>>for knowledge followed closely by the ability to understand. >>>> >>>>Access to data is critical, while useless in the absence of >>>>the two above. >> >>> I own a three legged stool. Is one leg more important than the others? >> >>I've sat on a one legged stool before. The fact yours has >>three might be a cute argument but is of no consequence >>to the discussion at hand. > >All three items are needed for learning to happen. If any one is in >short supply, it becomes the limiting factor. If that is so, you can't >all one more important than the other. A person can learn without access. However, each person has to make the same mistakes. Access to others' knowledge saves time. This time savings allows each new person to be able to make some kind of improvement or add new knowledge during his very limited lifespan. /BAH |