From: unsettled on
Ken Smith wrote:
> In article <9dp5q2h1eboobfg5rjl4j33tp6cdj699mb(a)4ax.com>,
> MassiveProng <MasiveProng(a)yourhiney.org> wrote:
> [...]
>
>>They do not tap or monitor unwarranted, dumbass.
>>
>> THE COMPUTER listens for key words and phrases,
>
>
> Did you just contradict your self? It sure looks like it to me. In order
> to connect "THE COMPUTER", you need a tap.

You'll find that quite often a technical term is not
the same as a legal term even when using the same word.



From: unsettled on
Ken Smith wrote:

> In article <entn7b$8qk_003(a)s947.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <entkvo$kr2$1(a)blue.rahul.net>,
>> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>
> [... access to information ...]
>
>>A person can learn without access.
>
>
> No they can't. Without information input there is no learning.

Another of those abbreviated sentence difficulties
where what she wrote isn't the complete thought.

We've been discussing access to written knowledge.

>> However, each person has
>>to make the same mistakes.

> If I hit my thumb with a hammer, I quickly recieve the information that it
> is a bad idea. If there is no feedback from actions, you can't identify
> mistakes.

Picky picky.



From: jmfbahciv on
In article <9dp5q2h1eboobfg5rjl4j33tp6cdj699mb(a)4ax.com>,
MassiveProng <MassiveProng(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 08 Jan 07 11:29:53 GMT, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) Gave
>us:
>
>>In article <enqp0r$8ss_012(a)s980.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>In article <459FA66F.2CB0CFEC(a)hotmail.com>,
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> >It is however pretty clear to me that a former g/f of mine had her
>>land
>>>>> >> >line tapped for being active in CND. It was hilariously obvious.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> So you've already realized that privacy does not include landlines.
>>>>> >> Why do you think it is going to include broadcasts over thru the air?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I don't understand this logic.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >That tap would have needed a warrant though.
>>>>>
>>>>> And the tap gets one; it's the law.
>>>>
>>>>Your taps don't need warrants any more though do they ?
>>>
>>>Yes, they do require warrants. Perhaps you should stop
>>>confusing tapping with monitoring.
>>>
>>>/BAH
>>
>>So if you don't tap, how do you monitor?
>
>
> They do not tap or monitor unwarranted, dumbass.
>
> THE COMPUTER listens for key words and phrases, and those text
>strings the COMPUTER feels MIGHT warrant further inspection get human
>ears, still without any names or source or destination info. IF the
>human listener agrees with the computer that actual conversation
>monitoring is needed, THEN an instant warrant is issued by a duly
>appointed authority on the spot. AT THAT TIME, monitoring begins, and
>it is with a warrant. Therefore, no MONITORING (read unwarranted
>listening by humans of a SPECIFIC individual) occurs UNTIL sound bytes
>have been deemed worthy of ACTUAL monitoring.
>
> Maybe one of these years you'll finally get it.

Ah, I was using the word monitoring incorrectly. I was
using it to describe the sampling done by computers.
Thank you for the correction.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <entrjm$ose$4(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>In article <enqpqn$8qk_002(a)s980.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>In article <45A0E100.62E7E990(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So you've already realized that privacy does not include landlines.
>>>> >> Why do you think it is going to include broadcasts over thru the air?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don't understand this logic.
>>>> >
>>>> >The tap would have been put in place _after_ a warrant was issued. Do
you
>>>> >see how that is different.
>>>>
>>>> And that's how it works today. There is a difference between a phone
>>>> tap and sampling hundreds of sounds for certain utterances.
>>>
>>>No there isn't !
>>
>>You should try to think this one through a little bit more.
>>You might start with radio and TV transmissions.
>>
>>/BAH
>
>Which use the public airwaves. Not the same as a private conversation
between
>2 people on a phone.

Now try to think just a little bit more.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <45A30E31.A88B553F(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Did you know that the original idea of Crisco btw was to make candles. It
>> >only got sold as a 'food' as an afterthought.
>>
>> No, I didn't know that. Did you know that we used to chew candles
>> because gum was too expensive?
>
>That sounds vile. Were they made of tallow ?

Wax.

/BAH