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From: unsettled on 22 Jan 2007 21:48 T Wake wrote: > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message > news:4b867$45b51d88$4fe7758$13824(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... > >>T Wake wrote: >> >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eoo7cj$8qk_001(a)s1231.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>>Now take a look at the rules of engagement that our enemies use. >>>>They are depending on us to abide by _our_ rules; they will make >>>>great advances in gaining power because we have tied ourselves >>>>up in "we better than they are" attitudes; this is arrogance. >>> >>><snip> >>> >>>You are either trolling or insane. >>> >>>Re-read this post and see if it is what you meant to say. >> >>There's a logic to what she said. An example is taking >>a knife to a gunfight. > > > That is (IMO) a false analogy but is the only one in which her posts holds > _any_ water(which goes some lengths to suggest her reasoning is flawed). > > This is a redraft of the police breaking the law to fight crime argument. Perhaps your prism yields an invalid argument. "they will make great advances in gaining power because we have tied ourselves up in "we better than they are" attitudes" That statement from BAH is 100% spot on. How to deal with that problem is a completely different issue we can get into later.
From: Ken Smith on 22 Jan 2007 22:50 In article <ep2l1n$8ss_003(a)s889.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: [....] >So you are telling me that the green bean pickers are getting >minimum wage? Yup. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 22 Jan 2007 22:57 In article <47753$45b561fd$4fe772a$17621(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: [....] >Beyond that, our western sane criminal will insist on full >protection of the same laws being violated. Insane ones >don't much care. That is not true in most cases. People who are insane often have a narrow area in which their logic is messed up or they believe things that simply aren't true. In other areas they may be quite sane. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 22 Jan 2007 23:17 In article <0KqdnemHBs12aCnYRVnytgA(a)pipex.net>, T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: [....] >I know Ken describes the report as saying "moderately bad stuff" happened, >but the above accounts (chained in the foetal position for example) are >beyond *my* use of the term moderate bad stuff. I said the "moderately bad" comment to set apart what the FBI saw and reported on and what likely went on when they weren't there. I did not mean to trivialize what the FBI reported. I only was leaving a lot of room on the scale for the worse things. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 22 Jan 2007 23:21
In article <zISdnY4yq_45cinYRVnyiQA(a)pipex.net>, T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: [....] >> We can only hold ourselves accountable for our actions, not >> those of insurgents and terrorists. So what is it you're >> actually trying to say here. I smell doublespeak. > >I thought he was referring to the treatment of Iraqi prisoners taken by the >US forces, and the treatment of people at Guantanamo. I may be wrong. Yes exactly. The US needs to hold to its standards in what it does. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge |