From: Ken Smith on
In article <45BB7002.B7B9AFFB(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
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>> Not really. MP's company didn't manufacture the cases; they
>> were ordered. That is not manufacturing them.
>
>Who did the mechanical design ? That's the important part. Whoever actually
>bashes the tin is irrelevant.
>
>It's about good design you see and good design need not be expensive.

It may not be "expensive" but good EMI shielding does tend to push the
cost up a bit. It usually requires that the sheet metal makes a good
connection at the joints and stuff like that. This typically adds a bit
to the cost. It doesn't add as much as adding an extra cup holder
however.


>
>Graham
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From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> T Wake wrote:
> > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>T Wake wrote:
> >>>
> >>>I don't recall anyone saying fundamentalist Muslims were not insane.
> >>
> >>No more so though than any religious zealot.
> >
> > Very true.
>
> Your bias rears up again.
>
> That depends on whether destruction and killing are part of
> the zealot's "thing" or not. It is very much the "thing"
> for Islamic fundamentalists, but I have yet to discover
> any other religion with zealots advocating those things.
>
> Even if there is another one, its hardly a universal case.

You're quite mad. History's full of such examples.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_inquisition

Graham


From: unsettled on
T Wake wrote:

> This is why I asked what you (and BAH) thought the purpose was. It strikes
> me that you both feel the Convention is there to limit the options warring
> nations can take when they wage war and I wondered if that was the case.

No.

> If it is, do you feel it is the only reason for the conventions?

The only reason is to criminalize conduct the convention
defines to be illegal.

Only losing nations and their executives ever face the
consequences. No nation or national executive engages
in war with the thought of losing.

How many nations have conducted significant torture since
becoming signatories of the convention? Several, actually.

Does Israel, a signatory, abide by the convention? It doesn't
seem so, because the people they're fighting against aren't
accorded POW status.

Since you say that the people at Gitmo aren't soldiers, they're
not subject to the convention and, as the Russians used to tell
the world, how we treat criminals is an internal matter.

If it turns out they're being abused we should probably do
as the Turkish government did after the Armenian genocide,
claim it was carried out by "bad officials" who will be
punished once we identify them.

From: Ken Smith on
In article <CPudnQHjc4nEPybYnZ2dnUVZ8qijnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
[....]
>I don't recall anyone saying fundamentalist Muslims were not insane.

I did question what we mean by "insane". Some people seem to think that
there is no logic in insane people. There often is logic but some false
assumption going into it make the person insane. Someone who thinks the
family cat is a bird, will try to return the "bird" to its cage. Given
what they believe, their actions can be understood.


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From: unsettled on
Eeyore wrote:

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> unsettled wrote:
>
>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I don't recall anyone saying fundamentalist Muslims were not insane.
>>>>
>>>>No more so though than any religious zealot.
>>>
>>>Very true.
>>
>>Your bias rears up again.
>>
>>That depends on whether destruction and killing are part of
>>the zealot's "thing" or not. It is very much the "thing"
>>for Islamic fundamentalists, but I have yet to discover
>>any other religion with zealots advocating those things.
>>
>>Even if there is another one, its hardly a universal case.
>
>
> You're quite mad. History's full of such examples.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_inquisition

You really are very very stupid.

The Spanish Inquisition was a political tool used to try
to eliminate converted Jews and Moors from Spain and to
seize their assets.

Read the section headed "Motives for instituting....."
which tells about additional political advantages to the
institution.