From: T Wake on

"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
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> In article <45BF4AF7.6D3EA07(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> I don't expect them to do a damned thing about Iran's atomic
>>> bombs.
>>
>>Iran has no atomic bombs.
>
> Maybe we should spread the rumor that they do along with everyone else.
> If the neocons thought they had some, they wouldn't even think about
> invading.

LOL. Probably the only way :-)


From: Lloyd Parker on
In article <9d81f$45bf6f6d$4fe7196$2020(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>,
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> In article <epne6r$8ss_002(a)s827.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>In article <45BE0B7D.D6FA8748(a)hotmail.com>,
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Only losing nations and their executives ever face the
>>>>>>>consequences. No nation or national executive engages
>>>>>>>in war with the thought of losing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmmmm, well there's more than few in the UK who would like to see Tony
>>>
>>>Blair
>>>
>>>>>>prosecuted for war crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Under whose law? Islam's?
>>>>
>>>>Under British law you nitwit. Britain is a signatory to the Geneva
>>>
>>>Conventions
>>>
>>>>you know.
>>>
>>>So you want your political leaders to be punished for
>>>trying to do their job. That kind of thinking must
>>>give lots of encouragement to those who intend to
>>>destroy your lifestyle.
>>>
>>>/BAH
>>
>>
>> The sovereign being above the law went out in the US around 1776. I doubt
it
>> applies in the UK any longer either.
>
>Not completely. Judicial immunity and a few other features
>arise out of sovereign immunity. This has been discussed in
>SCOTUS opinions more than a few times.
>

But not sovereign immunity (or Nixon wouldn't have needed that pardon).
From: unsettled on
Eeyore wrote:
>
> unsettled wrote:
>
>
>>Eeyore wrote:
>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Attacking Iran would really let the genie out of the bottle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Or contain it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It makes as much sense as attacking a wasp's nest with a heavy stick. In
>>>>>>front of other wasps !
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd say less. Iran will fall out of the hand of the extremists in the
>>>>>next 20 or so years if left alone. With Bush's help, they will maintain
>>>>>control for much longer than that.
>>>>
>>>>The West doesn't have 20 years.
>>>
>>>Says who apart from you?
>>>
>>>
>>>>What part of "using an atom bomb in a few years" do you not understand?
>>>
>>>They don't have a bomb now nor will they have one in a 'few years'.
>>>
>>>Iran clearly wants one not for offensive use ( that would be insane ) but to
>>>deter attack from the warmongering USA.
>>
>>You're the insane one.
>
>
> How about you explain a sane example of the offensive use of nuclear weapons ?
>
> Graham
>
>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki
From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <45BD19C7.5AA9DF4E(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> > Ken Smith wrote:
>>> >> T Wake <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>> >> I said:
>>> >> >> Some Christian cults won't even accept blood transfusions. How
>>> >> >> insane
>>> >> >> is that if you're condeming someone to die for a belief when
> life-saving
>>>
>>> >> >> treatment is readily available ?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >I hope that if their god does actually exist, they are all sent to
> hell.
>>> >>
>>> >> That is a completely repugnant suggestion. They believe something,
>>> >> they
>>> >> may be wrong but the only person they harm as a result is themselves.
>>> >> The fact that they had no evil intent makes them merely mistaken.
>>> >> The
> fact
>>>
>>> >> that they harm themselves only with this belief should not mean a
>>> >> trip
> to
>>> >> hell.
>>> >
>>> > If they were exclusively harming themselves I'd agree but I've heard
>>> > of
>>> > instances ( one quite recently ) where parents sought to prevent
>>> > doctors
>>> giving
>>> > life-saving treatment to their child. I don't recall how that one
>>> > turned
>>> out.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Generally the children die and often in pain. This same mindset
>>> encourages
>>> the spread of HIV/AIDS in Africa and prevents new lines of research
>>> being
>>> investigated. All on the whim of an invisible friend no one has really
> heard
>>> from in 2000 years.
>>
>>I just came across this recent example.
>>http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyandhealth/story.html?id=b2abf344-08e9-4ba6-8
> b5d-6d6da31ffeda
>>
>>" The combination of Jehovah's Witness parents and six tiny infants who
>>may
> need
>>blood transfusions could push the Vancouver sextuplets into the centre of
>>an
>>emotional religious dispute, one that might even end up in court, experts
>>suggested yesterday. "
>
> Boy, do I smell a rat. They had sextuplets without the services
> of a fertility clinic?

They are Jehovah's Witnesses. There is a whole box of rats.


From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >I just came across this recent example.
>> >http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyandhealth/story.html?id=b2abf344-08e9-4ba6-8
>> >b5d-6d6da31ffeda
>> >
>> >" The combination of Jehovah's Witness parents and six tiny infants who
>> >may
>> >need blood transfusions could push the Vancouver sextuplets into the
>> >centre of
>> an
>> >emotional religious dispute, one that might even end up in court,
>> >experts
>> >suggested yesterday. "
>>
>> Boy, do I smell a rat. They had sextuplets without the services
>> of a fertility clinic?
>
> " The brief text states that church members are allowed to receive any
> modern
> medical intervention, except blood transfusions. "
>

Nothing like defining your own standards of belief.