From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
> >> >Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Not really. MP's company didn't manufacture the cases; they
> >> >>> were ordered. That is not manufacturing them.
> >> >>
> >> >>Who did the mechanical design ? That's the important part. Whoever
> >> >> actually bashes the tin is irrelevant.
> >> >>
> >> >>It's about good design you see and good design need not be expensive.
> >> >
> >> >It may not be "expensive" but good EMI shielding does tend to push the
> >> >cost up a bit.
> >>
> >> It pushes it up a lot. Just the testing cost oodles of money.
> >> Anechoic chambers do not grow on trees.
> >
> >Compliance testing is routine these days.
>
> Not really.

Yes it is. Most developed countries now require EMC compliance on all electrical
and electronic products. It's a modestly large business.


> I have to unplug my stove to listen to AM radio.

Then your stove is very likely non-compliant with modern standards.


> > You don't need an anechoic chamber btw.
>
> How do you measure the EMF in "noisy" environments?
> Or don't you need numbers anymore?

You can use an 'open field' test site. The RF signals that occur there can be
listened to and if they're a broadcast station they are ignored.


> >> >It usually requires that the sheet metal makes a good
> >> >connection at the joints and stuff like that. This typically adds a bit
> >> >to the cost. It doesn't add as much as adding an extra cup holder
> >> >however.
> >>
> >> Now implement the production line that is so perfect all leaks
> >> can't get out.
> >
> >It shouldn't be the job of the production line.
>
> Think about it. The production line has to be designed so
> that the process doesn't leave any seam untoned.

Good design means good design for production too. There should be no 'fiddly
bits' requiring excessive labour to 'fettle'.


> >> Implement all the documentation and engineering
> >> so that anybody, who opens the cabinets, can close them while
> >> leaving no holes nor seams open.
> >
> >Dealt with by design again.
>
> There is more to design of manufacturing and assembling than
> laying out a circuit board by hand.

Layout out a pcb is but one small part of the overall process.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
> >Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>unsettled wrote:
> >>> Eeyore wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Attacking Iran would really let the genie out of the bottle.
> >>>
> >>> Or contain it.
> >>
> >>It makes as much sense as attacking a wasp's nest with a heavy stick. In
> >>front of other wasps !
> >
> >I'd say less. Iran will fall out of the hand of the extremists in the
> >next 20 or so years if left alone. With Bush's help, they will maintain
> >control for much longer than that.
>
> The West doesn't have 20 years.

Says who apart from you?


> What part of "using an atom bomb in a few years" do you not understand?

They don't have a bomb now nor will they have one in a 'few years'.

Iran clearly wants one not for offensive use ( that would be insane ) but to
deter attack from the warmongering USA.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >I just came across this recent example.
> >http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyandhealth/story.html?id=b2abf344-08e9-4ba6-8
> >b5d-6d6da31ffeda
> >
> >" The combination of Jehovah's Witness parents and six tiny infants who may
> >need blood transfusions could push the Vancouver sextuplets into the centre of
> an
> >emotional religious dispute, one that might even end up in court, experts
> >suggested yesterday. "
>
> Boy, do I smell a rat. They had sextuplets without the services
> of a fertility clinic?

" The brief text states that church members are allowed to receive any modern
medical intervention, except blood transfusions. "

http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyandhealth/story.html?id=c41f53f6-f4ab-4a1f-966e-2881e55d6b50

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote:
> >Ken Smith wrote:
> >
> >> That is a completely repugnant suggestion. They believe something, they
> >> may be wrong but the only person they harm as a result is themselves. The
> >> fact that they had no evil intent makes them merely mistaken. The fact
> >> that they harm themselves only with this belief should not mean a trip to
> >> hell.
> >
> >The problem is that they end up killing their children.
>
> IOW, they don't breed successfully.

They breed well enough.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
> >"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >> Why is it that so many Americans seem to believe in perpetual motion
> >> devices / free energy / cars that run on water btw ?
> >
> >Habishi isn't American.
>
> And he got his training in England.

Do you have any evidence for this ?

Graham