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From: Eeyore on 5 Feb 2007 18:34 unsettled wrote: > The electorate is way too easily led about by the nose by "popular causes." Such as the hysteria over 'global warming'. Graham
From: Eeyore on 5 Feb 2007 18:36 unsettled wrote: > Ken Smith wrote: > > > > The US is also very safety oriented. In China, I asked for an extension > > cord. The took a length of zip cord, stripped the ends, folded them over > > and pushed them into the wall outlet. > > In the UK it appeared to me that every power cord had a fuse > in the plug. OTOH they're known for their "ring" circuits with > high ampere fusing. 30 amps is high ? > Safety in one way, not so very safe in another. In what way is that unsafe exactly ? Graham
From: T Wake on 5 Feb 2007 18:37 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45C7BE91.451FE160(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > MassiveProng wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >MassiveProng wrote: >> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us: >> >> >> >> >> >> >In the following period we had skyrocketing inflation (under >> >> >> >Thatcher) and it marked the time when outsourcing also started to >> >> >> >take >> serious >> >> >hold. >> >> >> >> >> >> Wasn't it already heading that way as she came in, and a lot of >> >> >> the >> >> >> damage already done though? >> >> > >> >> >Labour had been very protective of manufacturing industry whereas >> >> >Thatcher's approach was to let 'the market' do its thing. She >> >> >believed >> that 'the >> >> >market' was the only important factor in the economy and distanced >> government >> >from any long-term strategic thinking about industry. >> >> > >> >> >So, if it was cheaper to get stuff from abroad whether outsourced or >> >> >simply imported from foreign suppliers, that was what went. >> >> > >> >> >Heck, we now even buy stuff like locomotives from the USA and ships >> >> >from >> >> >Italy, France and Germany, our own industry in those areas now being >> >> >a >> minute >> >> >fraction of what it once was. >> >> > >> >> >Thatcher also believed strongly in the service economy. As such, the >> >> >UK >> >> >is now regarded as being 'post-industrial'. >> >> >> >> >> >> So you are saying that her cutting these said controls was a bad >> >> thing for the value of british pounds sterling? >> >> >> >> Would it have been better to have retained it? >> > >> > I'm not sure what effect it would have had on the value of the pound. >> > >> > I'm confident that the loss of many key industries is bad for the UK >> > economy though. >> >> The value of the pound cuts both ways, thanks to BAH's heroine the UK is >> dependant on imports for many, many things and as a result fluctuations >> in >> the exchange rate have a massive impact. >> >> Prior to Thatcher, this was not as significant. >> >> I am not saying if this is a good or bad thing though. > > On a short term day-to-day basis I'm sure it's relatively benign. In the > long > term it's very different. > > Look at the difficulty in getting kids to study science now for example. > I'm > sure the kids are right to tend to avoid it since they've seen so many > 'scientific' jobs disappear. Sadly true, but I suspect there is more to it than that. Most 18 year olds, when given the choice between getting very drunk, sleeping around a lot and doing some "media studies" *or* studying like a lunatic to grasp physics will opt for the media studies. We[tinw] in the UK should step back from trying to ensure all children get a degree. > Also, as for Blair's idea that we can do 'R&D' instead of manufacturing, > he's > barking mad. Partly the definition of a politician if you ask me. > Doesn't he know who it is who needs that R&D ? Possibly not, although in his defence it is unlikely the changes put in place by Thatchers government could ever be undone now. -- Found this and thought it was funny http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/02/austin_must_be_a_really_wierd.php
From: Eeyore on 5 Feb 2007 18:45 unsettled wrote: > T Wake wrote: > > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > >>I'm confident that the loss of many key industries is bad for the UK > >>economy though. > > > > The value of the pound cuts both ways, thanks to BAH's heroine the UK is > > dependant on imports for many, many things and as a result fluctuations in > > the exchange rate have a massive impact. > > > > Prior to Thatcher, this was not as significant. > > > > I am not saying if this is a good or bad thing though. > > The legitimate question is, did Thatcher have a solid basis > for making the changes that were made? She based her economic theory on her father's shop in her home town of Grantham. It's come to be known as 'corner shop economics'. > The world has been > changing. We in the US are equally "post industrial". There's > not a single TV manufacturer remaining here, for example. You do however still have semiconductor companies, domestic auto manufacturers, several large commercial ship builders, domestic steel companies, and the like. Graham
From: Phil Carmody on 5 Feb 2007 18:49
unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: > Phil Carmody wrote: > > > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> writes: > > > >>Phil Carmody wrote: > >> > >>>So you're saying that the ancient tracts don't matter, then? > >>>If so, why did you start this subthread by posting references to a > >>>document 1200 years old? > >> > >>Matters to some, not to others. Islam doesn't seem to > >>evolve because "Allah wrote the Koran and handed it to > >>Mohammed, It is not to be interpreted." > > What's the Koran got to do with this? > > Is you a bit fick or summin? > > Cite one, cite the other, they're all alike. You can't > follow the discussion? No surprise there, Phil. > > Is you a bit fick or summin? Au contraire - I'm confusing you with simple, but to you very annoying, factual arguments as I pick holes in pretty much everything you post. So, who cited the koran? Your ignorance is beginning to exceed your master's - she's taught you well. Phil -- "Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of /In God We Trust, Inc./. |