From: T Wake on

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> John Larkin wrote:
>
>> <frithiof.jensen(a)die_spammer_die.ericsson.com> wrote:
>> >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
>> >message
>> >> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:29:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>> >> <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Veil seeking missiles serve 2 things:
>> >> >1) The fear for them will keep the veils away and preserve our
>> >> >society.
>> >> >2) It will keep the veils away and preserve our society.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Do you really think that women wearing veils is a threat to your
>> >> society? How fragile that sounds.
>> >
>> >In much the same way that skinheads wearing "hagen-kreutz" are - the
>> >wearers
>> >boldly avertise that they are outsiders that want a different society
>> >where the
>> >outsider-norms are the rule.
>>
>> Scairy, aren't they, people who have different opinions and haircuts
>> from yours.
>>
>> This is fascinating.
>
> It seems to be the kind of thing that freaks some Americans too.


Not just Americans as this thread is showing. We have more than our fair
share of extreme right wing groups in the UK. (BNP, NF, Combat18 etc)


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <45294670.AAB6384B(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>> >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >> >What exactly is it that you're afraid of ?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Loss of enough knowledge of how to do things that it will
>>> >> >> take another 1000 years to reinvent the wheel.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Are you actually serious ?
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I'm working on a 1000 year scenario and trying to shortcut
>>> >> the cold start so that it will only be 500 years.
>>> >
>>> >In 500 years Islam will have 'grown up'.
>>>
>>> They are at the age that Christianity was in the 1500s.
>>> I've been studying that era. Assuming (this is a big
>>> assumption) that religions follow similar growing paths,
>>> take the same time for each growing pain, there is going
>>> to be quite a bit of mess before things gets settled down.
>>
>>I expect that modern global communications / media and living in each
>>others' cultures will speed up the growing process very considerably.
>
> Actually, I think it stops maturing. Go read about the tower
> of Babel and how nobody got anything done. I've got a new
> hypothesis about this one. When you go to work and nobody
> shuts up, nothing gets done.

Unless you are in a call centre. Or a TV Talk Show host. Or...


From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <452946B9.4A53D6AA(a)hotmail.com>,
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> If the mindset of the religious extremists are not changed and
>>> they become successful in destroying Western civilization.......
>>
>>How could they even begin to acheive this ?
>
> You will help. I'm not make any specifications here just in
> case someone hasn't thought of it.

Actually you are helping more. I can not go into details here as it may
still be a secret.


From: T Wake on

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 13:43:28 +0100, "T Wake"
> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I didn't Google search it. I made a judgement call on the most likely
>>result. It was not Google who used it in context in the debate though.
>>
>
> Well, you might consider doing so; it's not all that difficult.

Thank you, I am sure it isnt.

> Turns
> out a lot happened between about 630 and 1400. Since I have no
> definition of "world power" you'll have to read it your way.

Ok, I will and often do.

The Muslim nations of the very early periods were still not the same ones as
we have today, and given my understanding of what makes a "world power" were
not world powers. I suspect you have read it differently to me.


From: Ken Smith on
In article <aruki2hluk2ki2i9m7k4ad9su5u2t1m347(a)4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
[...]
>If you don't have a morality, why would you object to anything the
>USA, or North Korea, or Sudan does? Why would it matter to you?

"Greedy self interest" is not generally held to be a morality and yet it
could be used as a reason to object to much that goes on.


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