From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:22:10 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
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>>
>>
>>JoeBloe wrote:
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>>> You have no clue as to what is going to happen.
>>
>>I'll bet you don't either.
>>
>
> Bet my hammer is closer to hitting the nail on the head, than either
> of you two total fucktards.

Ok. Lets get some boundaries for the bet then.

What timescale are you talking about?


From: T Wake on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 11 Oct 06 11:20:53 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com Gave us:
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>>This is how N. Korea works. If you don't learn this fact,
>>you're to make fatal mistakes as Clinton seems to have done.
>
>
> Funny... I was sure that he is still alive.

Fatal doesn't mean it will kill Clinton.

Seriously, did you go to school?


From: John Fields on
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:29:56 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
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>> I mean, I can't recall a single post where you've had anything good
>> to say about America or Americans, can you?
>
>There's precious little left worth saying good about.

---
Try. There must be _something_ you like about us or this great big
beautiful country we live in, no?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:30:43 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote in message
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>> The conservative base is also spitting mad. Those that believe in
>> small government and have been similarly sold a bill of goods that
>> never was delivered upon and where there is little evidence they ever
>> intended to do so. One of the men directly involved in the political
>> successes of the conservative base is going around on various talk
>> shows now, speaking with anyone who will listen, about just how angry
>> they are at the grossly increased expenditures of the US gov't and the
>> expansion of interference into everyones' lives here. None of which
>> his group likes.
>
>Despite the fact that I've spent much of this thread complaining about the
>Republicans, I will turn to my roots and defend them for a change.
>
>I don't think it is fair to say that "Those that believe in small government
>and have been similarly sold a bill of goods that never was delivered upon
>and where there is little evidence they ever intended to do so."

I was paraphrasing what he was saying on radio, yesterday, in fact. I
don't agree with him about his approach, so I cannot do much more than
pass along his anger as I understood it.

>I think,
>when the Republicans came to a position of parity in Congress in the early
>90s, they did indeed intend to deliver upon the conservative values of
>smaller government.

Clinton's DNC was also quite conservative, as well. And I remember
Clinton's entering speeches about meaningful cooperation with the
Republicans. His "open hand" policy to the Republicans at that time
actually angered me, because I remember well what they did in the
executive office during the 1980's.

Of course, in exchange for baring his throat to the Republicans, they
naturally chose to slit it with a knife.

>Their constituency really did seem to want that. After
>all, it was partly the actions of Congress during the Clinton administration
>that allowed for balancing the budget and even generating surpluses.

I'll agree with that, tentatively.

>I'm not actually sure what led them to discard the old party values of small
>government and fiscal conservatism, but that seems to have been something
>that happened well after their rise to parity in the early 90s.

I know the names of those who are why. I think you do, too. Their
names were in some renown under Reagan, as well.

>Perhaps the
>spend-spend-spend greed of the 90s stock market and .com boom created a
>constituency that became intolerant of any sort of bad news.

I don't find that a convincingly significant part.

>Thus any sort
>of bad news like "we're going to have to cut the spending on your pet
>program X" was avoided like the plague, and Congress never controlled the
>Federal government's spending like they should have. Perhaps that combined
>with the Republican legislators' fear of doing anything that might lose them
>a vote, and return control of the Congress to the Democrats, where it had
>resided for many decades previous.

Something is seriously, deeply, pervasively wrong in that party now.

Jon
From: John Fields on
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 11:39:57 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>John Fields wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >John Fields wrote:
>> >> ---
>> >> Have you ever lost a child?
>> >
>> >I lost my parents at a relatively young age. Will that suffice ?
>>
>> ---
>> No. I asked whether you'd ever lost a child. Why not just answer
>> the question instead of doing your little dance of evasion?
>
>You're a truly unpleasant person.

LOL, I don't see _you_ winning any popularity contests, do you?



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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer