From: MooseFET on 17 Oct 2006 10:00 mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > In article <1161055552.800809.247610(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> writes: > > > >mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu wrote: > >> In article <45205022.CCB68B6B(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> writes: > >> > > >[....] > >What we really need is a war on the incorrect use of the term "a war > >on". Right now people are talking of a "war on terror" as though > >somehow the emotion "terror" was an external threat. > > Well, there is a threat, and it is external (to some places). But, > you're right, terror is just a tool being used here, the proper should > be "war on extremism". The problem with that is we would have to have "a war on extremism we don't like". Perhaps it should be "a war on violent extremism". The world is full of extremists and we sure can't take them all on so perhaps "a war on extremist that are a threat" would be the way to go. None of these will fit on a bumper sticker so I don't think it will happen. Also if you call it a war, you make the folks on the other side into "soldiers". This is an honerable status I am not sure we want to grant them. They are criminals like the Mafia and nothing more. It will be easier to get other countries to help get rid of them if you assert that they are crooks that snuck into the place instead of soldiers for a cause. "Mr. Whosit, sir, we in the US have detected that several bad guys from the crime gang Lotsa Badguys have snuck into your country of Ohheckistan." gives the leadership of Ohheckistan an easy way to disown the terrorists. > > > Once the "war on > >terror" is over, I expect they will start the "war on ennui" or "a war > >on limerence". > > > Heck, we've "war on obesity" already:-) Obesity has won. They have taken over. They sell you hambergers and then little pills to prevent the hambergers from having their natural effect. > > Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool, > meron(a)cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"
From: jmfbahciv on 17 Oct 2006 08:58 In article <e97b6$4534dd17$4fe728b$30183(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >> I can state my hidden agenda; preserve the world's accumulated >> knowledge. Religious extremists have the goal of destroying >> most of that knowledge. Islamic extremists have the goal of >> destroying it all because it's a product of Western civilization. > >Religious extremism is always the result of one of the following: > >A) Insanity > >B) Desire for power, control, and wealth > None of the above. Fear. Pure, simple terror. /BAH
From: Lloyd Parker on 17 Oct 2006 06:43 In article <odi8j25ttpiuu9t6tbg4jne9cdut88qmin(a)4ax.com>, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:38:14 +0100, Eeyore ><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >>Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >>> JoeBloe <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>> >>> > All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not >>> >moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be >>> >a crime. >>> >>> You are lying. >> >>I suspect it's what he learnt at Church. >> >>American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so than their >>Muslim counterparts. >> > >Yeah, all those Southern Baptist suicide bombers. > >John > McVeigh was a part of the radical Christian right. The IRA was Catholic fighting Protestants (and Protestants fought back).
From: Eeyore on 17 Oct 2006 11:34 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> >So WW2 is responsible for *everything* ???????? > >> > >> Did you think that a political climate that culiminated with > >> WWII went away when people quit fighting? War endings are > >> never like a FORTRAN program where the CALL to EXIT stops > >> everything. > > > >So everything also caused by WW1 then. > > > It appears that you are incapable of thinking. It seems you don't know much history ! The Versailles Treaty was assuredly the primary cause of WW2. Graham
From: Eeyore on 17 Oct 2006 11:36
Lloyd Parker wrote: > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >Europeans have hidden assumptions about US companies and how they > >function because their environment is based on their socailist > >govnerments controlling production. > > OK, official idiot alert. What's next, the "commie under every bed" mantra? > > If you do not believe capitalism is alive and flourishing in Europe, you're > hopelessly ignorant. This BAH idiot seems to be living in some curious fantasy world. Graham |