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From: John Larkin on 17 Oct 2006 12:12 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 05:57:25 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: >On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:14:47 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:50:08 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan >><jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: >> >>>>American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so than their >>>>Muslim counterparts. >>> >>>More so, because they (through political influence over the power of >>>US action) have so much greater power by which they can act. (They >>>are a very large, very well funded, and highly-catered minority here >>>and they often pass around internal lists of who to vote for, as >>>well.) >>> >> >>And you think the Mother Jones crowd doesn't have their own lists? You >>seem to imply that there's something wrong with political organizing >>among people you don't agree with. Stalin thought that, too. > > >John, I've never seen a list for liberals to vote towards. Not ever. Now you have: http://www.emilyslist.org/ There are lots more... just look. John
From: lucasea on 17 Oct 2006 12:31 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eh2hrq$8qk_001(a)s777.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <ytOdnWLb3pxhMa7YRVnyig(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:egvmeh$8qk_001(a)s806.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <f8SdndAS3r_41q_YRVnygA(a)pipex.net>, >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>> >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:egt6gf$8qk_001(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>> You might question it. People who expect their systems to stay >>>>> up no matter what kind of errors occur, didn't question it. It >>>>> was a requirement to have certain uptimes. >>>> >>>>If it is excessive then it is poor business sense. If your system needs >>>>99.999% uptime then you take the correct precautions to ensure that. If >>>>it >>>>only requires 99% uptime the precautions can be different. >>>> >>>>Spending money and time making a 99% system 99.9999999% is wasted money. >>> >>> Think about this the next time you are a passenger on a plane. >>> Think about this when you're getting an MRI or CAT scan. >>> Also think about this when you are at the bank trying to get >>> some money. >> >>Think about what? If the system needs to be 99.999% then making it 99% is >>also a failure. >> >>I have yet to come across a system which is 100%. Is that even possible? > > Yes. Never heard of Goedel's Theorem, have you? Eric Lucas
From: David Bostwick on 17 Oct 2006 12:30 In article <eh2q77$c28$1(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >In article <odi8j25ttpiuu9t6tbg4jne9cdut88qmin(a)4ax.com>, > John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:38:14 +0100, Eeyore >><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>> >>>> JoeBloe <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> > All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not >>>> >moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be >>>> >a crime. >>>> >>>> You are lying. >>> >>>I suspect it's what he learnt at Church. >>> >>>American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so than >their >>>Muslim counterparts. >>> >> >>Yeah, all those Southern Baptist suicide bombers. >> >>John >> > >McVeigh was a part of the radical Christian right. The IRA was Catholic >fighting Protestants (and Protestants fought back). And the guy who killed the Amish kids was what? You're letting your biases cloud your reason. Fundamentalist Christians aren't the radicals you try to equate them with. If you really believe that, you're woefully or willfully ignorant. Are you also willing to include left-wing "fundamentalists" with every killer who is anti-religion or unreligious? Can I lump Ted and Barney in with anyone who kills just because he wants to? There's probably a killer out there who believes most of what you do, but I don't think you're a danger to anyone. People kill because they are evil. They may use a belief to hide behind or to rally followers, or they may really believe what they say. If you want to say that everyone who believes X is bad because an evil person says he believes X, your're going to have a lot of labels to make.
From: lucasea on 17 Oct 2006 12:35 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eh2iip$8qk_002(a)s777.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <4533B576.5375DC4E(a)hotmail.com>, > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >>> JoeBloe <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>> >>> > All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not >>> >moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be >>> >a crime. >>> >>> You are lying. >> >>I suspect it's what he learnt at Church. >> >>American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so than >>their >>Muslim counterparts. > > Not yet. But they are watching the Islamic extremists and learning > what works. Is *that* where Bush got the idea to attack a sovereign nation for no good reason. That explains a lot. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 17 Oct 2006 12:38
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eh2k1e$8qk_002(a)s777.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <e97b6$4534dd17$4fe728b$30183(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>> I can state my hidden agenda; preserve the world's accumulated >>> knowledge. Religious extremists have the goal of destroying >>> most of that knowledge. Islamic extremists have the goal of >>> destroying it all because it's a product of Western civilization. >> >>Religious extremism is always the result of one of the following: >> >>A) Insanity >> >>B) Desire for power, control, and wealth >> > > None of the above. Fear. Pure, simple terror. OK, if you must, then "fear of losing power, control and wealth". Witness the fear-mongering among the Religious Right in the current election campaign. Eric Lucas |