From: John Larkin on 17 Oct 2006 14:12 On Tue, 17 Oct 06 11:50:44 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >Pushing in certain areas is not the best way to prevent future >messes. I've found that the only way for people to learn how >not make new messes is to have them clean up the ones they >already made. > Excellent. Care to assign cleanup duties in the Middle East and Africa? John
From: T Wake on 17 Oct 2006 14:16 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45345ACA.EEEF787A(a)hotmail.com... > > > lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> Any church that >> dabbles in politics by telling their congregation how to vote should have >> their tax-exempt status revoked. > > So what's stopping ppl ? > The church makes sure no one votes for that legislation. :-)
From: T Wake on 17 Oct 2006 14:19 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eh2d3d$8ss_002(a)s777.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <eh01t4$ape$6(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, > lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >>In article <egt5d4$8u0_001(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>In article <LQ8Yg.11488$vJ2.5165(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:egqcsa$8qk_001(a)s961.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>>> In article <45306AD8.B490EBFB(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>The rest of the world loathes the USA. They didn't used to. >>>>> >>>>> This is wrong. >>>> >>>>Yes, it absolutely *is* wrong for the rest of the world to hate the USA. > We >>>>do a lot of good for the world. We really should stop behaving in such >>>>a >>>>way that makes other countries forget the good that we do. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> You've had to work hard to >>>>>>get to that position. >>>>> >>>>> Why do you think that the first goal of the US is to be liked by > everyone? >>>> >>>>That's a strawman. Our goal should be not to be hated by everyone. >>> >>>That is wrong. Our goal should be to know what is in the >>>best interest of the nation and its people. >> >>That's what Hitler thought too. > > Of course. The decision to be made then was it the world would > be under a Germanic rule. There were a set of countries who > disagreed and were willing to physically fight to the death > to preserve their living style. The world is having a similar > conflict now. It seems that you are willing to let others > die to preserve your living style. Interesting turn around. I am willing to die to protect my living style. This means not changing the way I live. Soldiers killing Arabs while new laws removing previously held freedoms is _not_ protecting my style of living. It seems you are the one supporting sending soldiers to a foreign land to die, while at the same time willing to dismantle parts of your living style simply to stay alive.
From: John Larkin on 17 Oct 2006 14:20 On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:45:03 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: >On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:50:18 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:38:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>>"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote in message >>>news:i9n8j29atodlsous5hl3bpuk1avrj0s9a4(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:39:16 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Nicely written. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>>>Ever heard of a dinky, crappy little liberal arts college called Kent >>>>>State? >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how you intend that to be applied, of course, since you >>>> don't say what you are thinking here. >>> >>>Sorry if that sounded snotty--no hidden agenda, just the obvious example of >>>troops being ordered into a situation and attacking their own people. >> >>Somehow it never occurred to me to throw rocks at armed National Guard >>troops. > >And by that comment do you mean to justify the application of deadly >force and the taking of lives in this particular circumstance? Just >curious. > Of course not. But if you do really, really stupid things, you can get hurt, no different from poking a pit bull with a stick. As I said, I wouldn't throw rocks at people with guns; I don't fancy being in the right, and dead. John
From: John Larkin on 17 Oct 2006 14:22
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:56:01 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:0su9j2tbgmi1lk9probji10efek75h3uf1(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:38:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote in message >>>news:i9n8j29atodlsous5hl3bpuk1avrj0s9a4(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:39:16 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Nicely written. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>>>Ever heard of a dinky, crappy little liberal arts college called Kent >>>>>State? >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how you intend that to be applied, of course, since you >>>> don't say what you are thinking here. >>> >>>Sorry if that sounded snotty--no hidden agenda, just the obvious example >>>of >>>troops being ordered into a situation and attacking their own people. >>> >> Somehow it never occurred to me to throw rocks at armed National Guard >> troops. > >Agreed, but those were pretty extreme times. I was in college at exactly those times. The vast majority of the protesters were partying twits. John |