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From: Eeyore on 18 Oct 2006 13:23 lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > > John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Tue, 17 Oct 06 11:32:56 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >>>I'm still trying to figure out how people keep track of > >>>all these kinds of details when they're having things > >>>we call summit meetings. > >> > >>And if the world were run by historians, would it work any better? > > > > I don't know. In my pre-9/11 days, I thought that businessmen > > would make the world work better. I had a rude awakening and > > was forced to examine thousands of assumptions I didn't even > > know I had. > > From unbelievably naive (I've been in industry for 15 years, and I've never > had the delusion that "businessmen would make the world work better) to > paranoid delusional. Here's a hint. You've only just begun to scratch the > surface on the assumptions you don't even know you have, and even I suspect > you've created some new assumptions that you aren't aware of. Who is this BAH clown anyway ? Graham
From: lucasea on 18 Oct 2006 13:35 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eh5312$8qk_003(a)s847.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > > I don't understand how stuff gets done. Given your utter obtuseness to issues, it constantly amazes me when you whip off a one-liner like this, that *perfectly* describes the problem with great clarity. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 18 Oct 2006 13:39 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eh53ce$8qk_005(a)s847.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <OF7Zg.17270$6S3.4818(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:eh2k1e$8qk_002(a)s777.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <e97b6$4534dd17$4fe728b$30183(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I can state my hidden agenda; preserve the world's accumulated >>>>> knowledge. Religious extremists have the goal of destroying >>>>> most of that knowledge. Islamic extremists have the goal of >>>>> destroying it all because it's a product of Western civilization. >>>> >>>>Religious extremism is always the result of one of the following: >>>> >>>>A) Insanity >>>> >>>>B) Desire for power, control, and wealth >>>> >>> >>> None of the above. Fear. Pure, simple terror. >> >>OK, if you must, then "fear of losing power, control and wealth". Witness >>the fear-mongering among the Religious Right in the current election >>campaign. > > I am. More alarming is the message of the Democrats who keep implying > that there isn't any problem. Citation, please. In your zeal to support the current administration, you're not listening carefully. >The speeches say that Bush is lying > about the existence of this national threat. That would be your problem--comprehension issues. What every single one I've seen has said, is that Bush is lying about the *extent* of the threat. Perhaps in your black-and-white world, you're not able to tell the difference (I sometimes question whether most Americans are), but there is a *huge* difference. Eric Lucas
From: lucasea on 18 Oct 2006 13:43 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:eh53u8$8qk_009(a)s847.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <009aj2dksthbu9fopngsr64nhfofi1dnjl(a)4ax.com>, > John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>On Tue, 17 Oct 06 12:40:58 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>In article <odi8j25ttpiuu9t6tbg4jne9cdut88qmin(a)4ax.com>, >>> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:38:14 +0100, Eeyore >>>><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> JoeBloe <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are >>>>>> > not >>>>>> >moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not >>>>>> >be >>>>>> >a crime. >>>>>> >>>>>> You are lying. >>>>> >>>>>I suspect it's what he learnt at Church. >>>>> >>>>>American Christian fundamentalists are as dangerous if not more so than >>>their >>>>>Muslim counterparts. >>>>> >>>>Yeah, all those Southern Baptist suicide bombers. >>> >>>Sigh! Wait. If this gets results it will be tried. >>>Have you not noticed what's been happening lately? >>>And it's not just Southern Baptist. >>> >>Judiasism and Christianity have generally considered suicide to be a >>sin. > > So did Islam. > >> Radical Islam considers it to be a holy act. It also helps get >>rid of the young males, making the world safe for lecherous old-fart >>polygamists. > > Now think again. Christians admire and praise people who are > martyrs. It doesn't take an IQ of greater than 60 to figure > out how to turn that one into making suicide bombers heroes. > Islam has figured out how. You need to listen to some > of Falwell's speeches. Turn to that religious channel that > is on your cable, arm yourself with a 10 gallon barf bag, > and listen to what those believers are getting told. Now you're finally starting to catch on. There are far bigger dangers, both ideological and potential physical threats, within our own borders than without. Eric Lucas
From: John Larkin on 18 Oct 2006 13:49
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:35:11 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote >> >> > T Wake wrote: >> >> >> >> >> You are quite correct in that blaming the soldiers directly for their >> >> >> actions is wrong. The blame rests squarely with the person who wants to >> >> >> use guns and soldiers against their own people. >> >> > >> >> > You could blame the US gun culture too. >> >> >> >> I'm not sure I see the connection. The "gun culture" generally refers to >> >> arms in the hands of civilians. Soldiers and police have guns in just about >> >> every culture (I can't think of a single counterexample), and it was those >> >> soldiers' guns that caused the deaths at KSU. >> > >> >For comparison it would be very unusual to see guns used in a similar example >> >here in the UK and our military doesn't come out onto the streets as a rule >> >either ( most of our police are unarmed of course ). >> > >> >Graham >> >> The Kent State troops were state National Guards, a part-time >> quasi-police force that US states keep available for callup in >> emergencies when there are not enough fulltime cops or emergency >> workers to handle a crisis. They tend to be very effective for natural >> disasters, floods and blizzards and earthquakes. This is essentially a >> civilian militia that trains a few weeks a year, aka "weekend >> warriors." They are under control of state governors but can also be >> activated by the Federal government in times of national need. >> >> Do you have anything like that? > >Nothing comparable at all. I guess our natural disasters aren't usually bad enough >to need that kind of thing. You do have benign weather. Whenever I visit the grand old rockpiles of England (or of New England, for that matter) I can't help thinking about what a good hurricane or earthquake would do. John |