From: jmfbahciv on
In article <1161700854.976916.304350(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>
>Eeyore wrote:
>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>
>> > "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>> > >T Wake wrote:
>> > >
>> > >[... democrats ...]
>> > >> They don't talk about what measures they will take to prevent alien
>> > >> attacks
>> > >
>> > >If we imagine that they have some ideas, we can also see reasons why
>> > >they may not want the other side to hear of them.
>> > >
>> > >Also a great deal has been said about the risk of something nasty
>> > >coming in in a cargo container. Democrats have suggested better
>> > >inspection as part of the answer to this so it isn't true that they
>> > >haven't said anything. Unfortunately, the inspection needs to happen
>> > >at the shipping end not the recieving. The ports are places you
>> > >wouldn't want a nuke to go off.
>> >
>> > What I'm more concerned about is the Democrats' and others' complete
>> > silence about nuclear power plants which is the most important
>> > action that can be taken right now. Only the person known
>> > as President Bush is even uttering those nouns.
>> >
>> > It says that Connecticut has submitted a request for a permit
>> > to open a plant. We'll see what the will of these politicians
>> > is.
>>
>> What on earth are you talking about ?
>
>The discussion seems to have turned to the idea of making more nuclear
>power plants. One way to make the country more secure is to not have
>to import large amounts of oil.
>
>The US still has oil with in its boundaries, but the dumbest thing you
>can do is start using it. If you assume that the oil will run out one
>day this just makes sure that the other guys have the last oil. If the
>economy continues to rely on oil, the last guy with oil wins.
>
>Renewable energy, can reduce the need but it doesn't look like it can
>meet all the need. This leaves use with few other options besides
>eventually building more atomic power plants.

Thank you for writing this clearly.

>
>The nuclear power industry has a history of making false promices and
>screwing up badly. As a result the idea of making a new power plant
>isn't very popular. Strangley enough research into the theory that
>makes them go is still fairly popular. This may be a good thing
>because a "new generation of safe power plants" may just sell.

The only person who is willing to say those "bad" words, nuclear
power plant, is Bush. I haven't heard Republicans say them and
Democrats always leave it off their list of items we have
to do to become less dependent on oil imports. I want to kick
their behinds and wake them up. All we get here in Mass.
is Kennedy claiming there isn't a war on terror using lanugage
that can be interpreted two different ways. The usual 95%
assume the incorrect way...as he meant it to be misinterpreted.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <1161700163.343842.50780(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> In article <1161448269.254202.18890(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >T Wake wrote:
>> >
>> >[... democrats ...]
>> >> They don't talk about what measures they will take to prevent alien
>> >> attacks
>> >
>> >If we imagine that they have some ideas, we can also see reasons why
>> >they may not want the other side to hear of them.
>> >
>> >Also a great deal has been said about the risk of something nasty
>> >coming in in a cargo container. Democrats have suggested better
>> >inspection as part of the answer to this so it isn't true that they
>> >haven't said anything. Unfortunately, the inspection needs to happen
>> >at the shipping end not the recieving. The ports are places you
>> >wouldn't want a nuke to go off.
>>
>> What I'm more concerned about is the Democrats' and others' complete
>> silence about nuclear power plants which is the most important
>> action that can be taken right now.
>
>.... so I type the words "democrat" and "nuclear" into google and the
>very first page that comes up reads:
>********
>WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- Democrats from Iowa to powerful members of
>Congress are endorsing more nuclear power in the United States, often
>to combat climate change or dependence on oil, but critics say it's a
>shortsighted venture.
>***********

Interesting. Can you do a traceback of where that item came from?
I haven't heard a single Democrat say those words. And it's an
obvious campaign win.
>
>
>> Only the person known
>> as President Bush is even uttering those nouns.
>
>Perhaps the problem is that you spelled it "nucular" when you did your
>google search. When I tried that I got mostly stuff about North Korea
>gitting nucular wepins.

Sorry. Would you believe that, before I got sick, I very rarely
made spelling and typos?


But the problem is that you found it written up but I haven't heard
them say it.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <wlr%g.21222$e66.19412(a)newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ehkth3$8qk_002(a)s772.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <1161448269.254202.18890(a)k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>
>>>[... democrats ...]
>>>> They don't talk about what measures they will take to prevent alien
>>>> attacks
>>>
>>>If we imagine that they have some ideas, we can also see reasons why
>>>they may not want the other side to hear of them.
>>>
>>>Also a great deal has been said about the risk of something nasty
>>>coming in in a cargo container. Democrats have suggested better
>>>inspection as part of the answer to this so it isn't true that they
>>>haven't said anything. Unfortunately, the inspection needs to happen
>>>at the shipping end not the recieving. The ports are places you
>>>wouldn't want a nuke to go off.
>>
>> What I'm more concerned about is the Democrats' and others' complete
>> silence about nuclear power plants which is the most important
>> action that can be taken right now. Only the person known
>> as President Bush is even uttering those nouns.
>
>Because they're another smokescreen to try to keep people from focusing on
>the real issues. As I mentioned several times, and you've refuse to
>address, less than 3 % of our national electric power comes from pretroleum.
>Since we only import about 2/3 of our petroleum, apportioning imports across
>all uses leaves about 2 % of our electric power coming from imported oil.
>Since only about half of our oil comes from the traditional Muslim nations
>that might cause us trouble (fully 1/3 of our imported oil comes from Canada
>and Mexico), that's down to about 1 % of our total electric power grid that
>is at risk. You would truly never notice that if it went off-line, as coal-
>and natural gas-fired power plants would easily take up that small amount of
>slack.

Those numbers sound too low. I've been paying an oil surcharge
for years (on my electric bill).

>
>No, nuclear power plants have nothing to do with petroleum dependence on
>Muslim nations, as you imply. They do, however, have to do with the future
>of electric power in this country, once coal and natural gas run out.

Exactly. So why aren't politicians talking about it in their
campaigns?

>However, between them, the reserve is estimated at well over 400 years,

What reserve are you talking about?

>so
>it's clearly not a big issue in this election as Bush would have us believe.

Bush isn't making this an issue. ***I AM****. I don't a single
long-range plan sound bite out of any of these idiots' mouths.

Sorry, we had yet another governor debate last night.

>Where did you get your talking points, if not from the RNC--certainly not
>from any analysis of actual information.

I think them up.

>
>
>> It says that Connecticut has submitted a request for a permit
>> to open a plant.
>
>Great, I'm all for it personally. However, it has nothing to do with the
>quality of elected officials.

Yes. It does. Do you even know about long-range planning of infrastructure?

It exists. People in my state have eliminated it from their vocabulary.
I don't think they even have it in their fairy tales.

/BAH
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
> >Nazi Germany was a nation with a powerful miliary machine and advanced
> >technology.
> >
> >Islamic extremism isn't.
>
> hmm..that's why these extremists use weapons manfuactured by
> the West to kill Westerners and Muslim moderates.

So who's selling them this stuff ?

Graham

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <_6M%g.15884$TV3.5959(a)newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:ehngfd$8qk_013(a)s885.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>
>> In article <ehilc2$rv0$11(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
>> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>
>>>And what is Bush doing but taking away our basic liberties?
>>
>> Name one so we have something concrete to talk about. Note
>> that Bush needs Congressional approval for what he does do.
>> So I want you to name one liberty that Bush, the person, has
>> removed.
>
>
>Yet another smokescreen intended to obscure the fact that the Executive
>branch of the government, under the leadership of GWB, is taking away
>freedoms specifically named in the Constitution. Since Bush is the Chief
>Executive of the US, that means that he is responsible for the actions of
>the entire Executive branch. Try the 4th Amendment prohibition of searches
>and seizures without the probable cause that would get them a warrant, for
>starters.

That Act passed by Congress is very specific. It is not a blanket
clause that covers all search and seizures.

>Try the implicit right not to be dragged into a war unilaterally
>by the Executive branch of the government.

Huh?

/BAH