From: Eeyore on


JoeBloe wrote:

> You're an absolute dipshit. It has ALWAYS been about our nation's
> security.

No it isn't.

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4549E5B2.FE517C00(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping !
>>
>> I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour
>> groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the
>> Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the
>> store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk
>> a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall.
>>
>> They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to
>> look at a remarkable feat of the human species.
>
>Americans ???

Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had
new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who
don't know how work gets done.

That part of the Wall was amazing. We climbed it and walked it.
JMF has fear of heights. He wanted to go on (est. angle of
some of walk was >45 degrees). I looked back and then had to
look _down_. I figured I'd have to carry him back if we went any
further.

You could put two horse carriages IIRC.

/BAH
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> In article <1162480833.859040.321890(a)e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote:
> >
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >[....]
> >> >Actually, yes, GDP includes things that are exported.
> >>
> >> One doesn't export intellectual property. It's not a thing.
> >
> >What a curious comment. Care to expand on it?
>
> I'll try. Let's try it this way....I know a piece of knowledge.
> This is intellectual property. I write it down on a piece of
> paper. Unless I formally put it into a corporate structure,
> anybody can use it to make their widget which then gets sold.

If you 'give it way' for sure.

The whole thing about IP is either (a) keeping it secret / proprietary or (b)
patenting it, in which case the info enters the public domain but you get a
'licence' by virtue of the patent to use it exclusively ( or license the
technology ) for the period of the patent.

It's essentially a 'bargain' between Governmemt and inventor to encourage
invention ( by means of patent protection ) in return for placing the invention
in the public domain which will ultimately aid others too.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping !
> >>
> >> I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour
> >> groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the
> >> Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the
> >> store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk
> >> a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall.
> >>
> >> They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to
> >> look at a remarkable feat of the human species.
> >
> >Americans ???
>
> Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had
> new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who
> don't know how work gets done.

I can't imagine what goes through their minds.


> That part of the Wall was amazing. We climbed it and walked it.
> JMF has fear of heights. He wanted to go on (est. angle of
> some of walk was >45 degrees). I looked back and then had to
> look _down_. I figured I'd have to carry him back if we went any
> further.

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

My time on mainland China was really just involved with business in the Shenzhen
area. I'd like to see more though.

I do like Hong Kong big time though !

Graham

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4549E5F7.B1BC4A45(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>> I listen to people and their stories rather than cite an
>> anonymous survey put out by the government.
>
>What 'anonymous survey' ?

The government survey. It has removed all personal experience
out of the report. I used to keypunch these kinds of surveys
in college. The personal part is never included. One of the
surveys I keypunched was a study about retirement of faculty.
50% were very bitter, a.k.a extremely unhappy. The prof
doing the study never read the margins of the questionaires.
He only did numerical analyses of the questions answered.
His preliminary results was the retirement program the college
had was acceptable until I mentioned that there were a lot of
people who were very bitter.

What counts with measuring the effectiveness of any social program
is the individual stories, not the cut and dried percentages
of service delivery counts.

/BAH